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Phil Taylor Must Stay

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After reading about Phil's decision to limit his communication with the community I am for one dissapointed in his decision to do so. To show him that we want him to keep open talks lets show him our support by replying to this thread with a hear hear! Maybe then he will see that more people appreciate him than he thinks. Phil, one thing that I like about FSX is that we are (were) able to get info straight from the big guy and I want to keep that line of comunication open. Please dont let a few idiots spoil that for the majority of the FSX community. So I'll start it off.Hear Hear! :-beerchug

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I will join in the effot, BUT.........I've never ever understood the anger and vitriol that, what amounts to is a simple computer game/simulation, MSFS has caused over the months and years. It's called "Get A Life PEOPLE". Leave poor Phil alone. Be glad that he is out there at all to help us enjoy our hobby, but that is ALL it is! A hobby, not your family or your health or god knows what else! Geezuz! Randy Jura, KPDX:-(

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Hear Hear. Anybody who has been in Phil's position understands EXACTLY where he is coming from.

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Well said. Let's hope he will reconsider.Regards,Jim Karn

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Why are we so focused on what Phil will ("must") do?Seems like maybe we ought to focus on why he is giving up. In various places he has invested a lot of time & effort into becoming involved in the community only to be attacked for various reasons that frankly are no fault of his. So often people realize too late what they have done...good luck with the damage control!

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This thread is not about damage control its about showing support and showing that there are more people who actually appreciate his work than not. If your in post a reply of support if not dont post on this thread.

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I support Phil Taylors participation. I only hope he realizes it's difficult to control all individuals and what they say in public forums. He should simply ignore what irks him. and talk to folks who does not disrespect him or ACES.Manny

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Ok, let me clarify...I fully support Phil. I'm sorry things have come to this. My post was (and is) meant to try and get people to think about why we are in a thread like this to begin with so that in the future we don't have to have discussions like this.As to the OP's intents...Hear Hear!

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Phil,Please see my post #57 in the other thread here on Avsim, and please see my post in the FSX forum on FlightSim.As was noted by the OP of this thread, you have a very large fan club that depends on you for authoritative information. Please don't let the detractors interfere with your generous sharing of time with the rest of us.

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He is staying. He is just limiting the amount of garbage he has to put up with by a minority that think he owes them never ending support for a computer game. Though that is only part of it I expect. The lack of respect many people show on others on the internet is breathtaking.So now he is in read-only mode. We can still make requests of ACES though just not him personally so for us the only real difference is the 'feel good' aspect of being able to chat with one of the FS gods :-)Steven.

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Phil has demonstrated his dedication to his work and to the community that benefits from his invaluable information and his assistance. WE ALL have learned so much from his presence on these boards.If I could say something personally to Phil, that would the truth is that most of the community do appreciate all that you've done here, and we hope, I hope, that you will continue here with us, in any way that you find acceptable. There will always be a few detractors here and there, but the vast majority of us are truly thankful for all your insight and contributions.Regards,

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Hear, Hear :-beerchugYour advice Phil and those whose FSX models I fly too, have made my FSX experience a very smooth and happy one. Thank you.

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It's an unfortunate situation and not the first time it's played out within the flight sim community.What I don't understand, and will never understand, is why these axe grinding, counter-productive whiners continuously complain about a product they were not forced to purchase or use. And, if they did purchase it and found it didn't meet their expectations, why didn't they take it back for a refund? Does the simplicity of this approach escape the thought processes of some?

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Absolutely. Phil, the overwhelming majority of users support you and appreciate your efforts to communicate with us. If we do not defend you more often in the various fora, it is either because many of us shy away from the controversial people and their posts (we avoid them!), or because we do not want to feed trolls (ignore them and they will go away or be banned). But, this should not lead you to believe that you are alone - it is not so.Best regards.Luis

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>Absolutely. Phil, the overwhelming majority of users support>you and appreciate your efforts to communicate with us. If we>do not defend you more often in the various fora, it is either>because many of us shy away from the controversial people and>their posts (we avoid them!), or because we do not want to>feed trolls (ignore them and they will go away or be banned).>But, this should not lead you to believe that you are alone ->it is not so.>>Best regards.>>LuisVery well put. Thats right on the button! Thats exactly it. Manny

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Hi Phil!I understand your position and yet still hope that you will find a way to maintain open dialog and yet NOT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH CONSTANT ABUSE!In the meantime , thanks for all your advise and help in the past. I will keep an eye on your blog! Keep us posted about FSXI.All the best and God blessAlfred

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>>Absolutely. Phil, the overwhelming majority of users support>>you and appreciate your efforts to communicate with us. If we>>do not defend you more often in the various fora, it is either>>because many of us shy away from the controversial people and>>their posts (we avoid them!), or because we do not want to>>feed trolls (ignore them and they will go away or be banned).>>But, this should not lead you to believe that you are alone->>it is not so.>>>>Best regards.>>>>Luis>>Very well put. Thats right on the button! Thats exactly it. >>Manny>Yes!!! That

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Sure Phil should stay. But maybe its time to leave all the talk about FS-X, SP2 and DX-10 behind us and talk about the new train sim, Microsoft ESP and developments from those projects that will be used for FS-XI.Since the release of SP2 most posts have been about performance, SP2 features and the returning argument that hardware will improve enough to give FS-X constant frame rates even in the resource hungry area's.With no chance of further improvements there is little use in discussing these issues. FS-X SP2 is a fact, its performance is a fact and the DX10 features are a fact. None of this will change. Maybe the choice for building with future hardware in mind will be vindicated in a few months (It seems an important issue for Phil when I read his Blog and posts). But who cares? Even if Phil's predecessor made the wrong choice there is nothing we can do about it now (and we certainly can't blame Phil for this).So please keep posting Phil. Show us the interesting TrainSim and ESP stuff. Let us know what the team is doing and how this could work in a future FS. I can wait for those new posts.

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Thank you, Phil. Knowing a little about real flying, and much less about computer flying, I have learned so much from you.I'm sure you will do what you need to do ... BUT ... I would Post and IGNORE and REFUSE to read and respond to anyone who does not have the decency to be respectful ... or has an agenda that is off topic. You MUST remember that there is ALWAYS a "silent majority" who, for reasons already stated in this thread, will remain "silent." Some of them are speaking up just now. Also ... there is a "majority" of us who (as one poster has already said here) have family, children, etc. ... who HAVE A LIFE beyond certain hobbies that tend toward self-focused activity. Unfortunately, you hear too often from those for whom simulation is almost "bigger than LIFE."Again, do what you need to do ... but if you still desire to go beyond the call and share your knowledge and expertise with the community at large ... just POST... then REFUSE to read and NEVER COMMENT or RESPOND to disrespectful posts, and those containing hidden agenda.And that includes any post of MINE that is out of this envelope!!Thank you again ... I hope you are not reading this over the weekend and are enjoying your family!!God bless,Steve

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Phil will be back.The 'Friends of Phil Taylor Society' will soften him up or some die-hard simmer will sit in front of the ACES office in Seattle, hold Phil's picture up in the air and threaten to start themselves on fire.I wouldn't get too worked up over this.Bryan

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