April 2, 20251 yr 41 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I agree. In 2020 I used ReShade for a while, then nvidia filters, then REX Atmos. In 2024 I've briefly tried nvidia filters, but I prefer how the sim looks "unfiltered" 🙂 2024 has a better light model, so no filters are needed - would be better to fix monitor calibration and remove any NV/Windows colour changes. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
April 2, 20251 yr The lighting in MSFS 2020 is generally OK for me, but I would really love to fix the deep red horizon at dawn and dusk. That looks unrealistic. Edited April 2, 20251 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 2, 20251 yr Author 7 hours ago, abrams_tank said: I'm not even sure why people are using filters for MSFS 2024. The default colors look quite good to me for MSFS 2024. I agree to most of it. I really do not want to use filters, but I find that many times, all colors are washed out by the brightness of the screen, especially on late afternoons when the sun is low. All I wanted was to lower the brightness a bit just as it is in MSFS 2020. But I know that many people love the increased brightness in 2024. To each their own I guess 😊 I9-13900K, RTX 4090, Reverb G2, Simrig Motion platform
April 2, 20251 yr 24 minutes ago, MauBen said: All I wanted was to lower the brightness a bit just as it is in MSFS 2020. But I know that many people love the increased brightness in 2024. To each their own I guess 😊 Have you tried using the Brightness slider in the Nvidia control panel? Not ideal but it might help. Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
April 2, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Christopher Low said: The lighting in MSFS 2020 is generally OK for me, but I would really love to fix the deep red horizon at dawn and dusk. You couldn't do that without changing other colours - this is what 2024 fixes. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
April 2, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, MauBen said: but I find that many times, all colors are washed out by the brightness of the screen, especially on late afternoons when the sun is low. Eh? That is what happens in the real world! CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
April 3, 20251 yr 22 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: 2024 has a better light model, so no filters are needed... In your humble opinion (cough cough). I find the VC to be dull and too dark w/o the GFE filter in both 202 and 2024 which I use always which largely selectively brightens up the VC in all planes wonderfully while having little impact on external views. I hoped this improved in 2024 but it's really about the same as in 2020. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
April 3, 20251 yr Author 21 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Eh? That is what happens in the real world! Except that in the real world, you can wear sunglasses and the colours are even enhanced that way, not washed out. Not something I care to do in the sim, and even if I did wear sunglasses, the colours would still be washed out. I9-13900K, RTX 4090, Reverb G2, Simrig Motion platform
April 3, 20251 yr 23 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Eh? That is what happens in the real world! That defense of the washed out color and over bright appearance in 2024 doesn’t make sense. In the real world your pupils constrict to adjust to brightness so that the world doesn’t appear too bright, and you can put on sunglasses in extremely bright conditions. Same problem in 2020 in some conditions but not as pronounced. Edited April 3, 20251 yr by desbean
April 3, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, MauBen said: Except that in the real world, you can wear sunglasses Yes, and? 1 hour ago, MauBen said: you can wear sunglasses and the colours are even enhanced that way, not washed out. Not something I care to do in the sim, and even if I did wear sunglasses, the colours would still be washed out. I am having some difficulty understanding your point when talking about colours on a monitor. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
April 3, 20251 yr 21 minutes ago, desbean said: That defense of the washed out color and over bright appearance in 2024 doesn’t make sense. What happens in 2024 doesn't make sense when it happens in the real world? 22 minutes ago, desbean said: In the real world your pupils constrict to adjust to brightness so that the world doesn’t appear too bright For your pupils to do that, your monitor would need to produce thousands more nits of brightness. 24 minutes ago, desbean said: you can put on sunglasses in extremely bright conditions. Your monitor doesn't give out extremely bright conditions. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
April 3, 20251 yr On 3/31/2025 at 7:02 PM, MauBen said: The video I posted yesterday is not entirely accurate as far as the colours are concerned. A while back, I had added a filter with the Nvidia app and I forgot about it. When I removed the filter, the colours are significantly different and actually look more realistic in my opinion in MSFS 2024, especially the greens. Here a screenshot that shows the difference. I will need to redo my previous video without the filters. Sorry about that 😳 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wARs9F5w8JV89dQyDBcUAMu4ml0618N4/view?usp=drive_link MSFS 2020 looks better now than MSFS 2024 which is over-saturated out of the box…. Too much Polaroid look. With NV filters this can be corrected. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
April 3, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said: What happens in 2024 doesn't make sense when it happens in the real world? For your pupils to do that, your monitor would need to produce thousands more nits of brightness. Your monitor doesn't give out extremely bright conditions. I know you will go to any extreme to defend 2024 but you totally miss the point. Your pupils OBVIOUSLY don’t adjust to the brightness put out by 2024 on a monitor, but they DO adjust when you are out in the real world in bright conditions. In conclusion the washed out brightness in 2024 is not what you see out in the real world. Simple, understand now? Edited April 3, 20251 yr by desbean
April 3, 20251 yr 19 minutes ago, GSalden said: MSFS 2020 looks better now than MSFS 2024 which is over-saturated out of the box…. Too much Polaroid look. With NV filters this can be corrected. I always thought that 2024 looked somewhat cartoonish (polaroid) compared to 2020. You could be right, it’s perhaps over-saturation causing that. Good for future reference (when someday I reinstall it) to know that can be corrected with the filters. Thanks Edited April 3, 20251 yr by desbean
April 3, 20251 yr 24 minutes ago, desbean said: In conclusion the washed out brightness in 2024 is not what you see out in the real world. Simple, understand now? No, because in the real world, colours get washed out in bright sunshine which is the first point I made. Do as you first suggested and look towards the bright sunshine at dawn or dusk - your eyes cannot adjust enough to compensate for such brightness - the colours will be 'washed out'. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
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