June 3, 20251 yr This is good for the consumer but could also mean some will not sell their products in the EU anymore, this may be extended in future to PC parts GPUs for example. https://www.guru3d.com/story/new-eu-mobile-device-requirements-5year-software-and-7year-parts-support/ Raymond Fry.
June 3, 20251 yr Oh, they'll probably sell them, but at a higher price to compensate them for the extended support. Regulations are always paid for by the consumer in the form of higher prices - the businesses rarely ever lose, especially big business. Dave Simulator: P3Dv6.1 System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home
June 3, 20251 yr There's far too much planned obsolesence in phones, tablets and other electronics. It drives me nuts that you often can't even replace a simple battery (the most common thing to go with normal use). I constantly have to buy new PS5 controllers because either the battery or the stick goes, two things that should be easily replaceable. I end up spending so much money replacing entire devices instead of simple parts. That said, 7 years after a product is discontinued sounds like a whole lot. Nobody is pushing software updates to 7 year old phones. Seems like some middle ground would make more sense. Be interesting to see how this plays out. Many of these companies entire business model is planned obsolesence. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
June 3, 20251 yr 52 minutes ago, kerosene31 said: Nobody is pushing software updates to 7 year old phones. It's 5 years of software updates and 7 years after discontinue date for critical parts. Though I can't seem to find out what exactly these critical parts are (was just briefly looking at europa website). 6 hours ago, G-RFRY said: This is good for the consumer but could also mean some will not sell their products in the EU anymore, this may be extended in future to PC parts GPUs for example. https://www.guru3d.com/story/new-eu-mobile-device-requirements-5year-software-and-7year-parts-support/ No major smartphone/tablet supplier is going to leave the EU because of this. That's a massive loss of money that no major stakeholder is going to okay. I find your comment a bit weird about GPU, those usually can't be repaired anyway without having deep soldering knowledge, not really comparable to something like a phone.
June 3, 20251 yr 6 hours ago, G-RFRY said: This is good for the consumer but could also mean some will not sell their products in the EU anymore, this may be extended in future to PC parts GPUs for example. https://www.guru3d.com/story/new-eu-mobile-device-requirements-5year-software-and-7year-parts-support/ I'm in agreement with the Software Support as that fits well into the existing software deployment system. But hardware parts...? I think the main unintended consequence of that part is going to be either a. Less Innovation for new phones, and b. much more likely to see far fewer models offered. Oh, and to go with that, the supply of cheap phones will go way down. So as many times with well intentioned legislation, this will end up hurting the people who need inexpensive options.
June 3, 20251 yr Author Bear in mind the EU test for power draw in there banding, this is to stop excessive power required to run the product under the green energy rules. already some products are band in the EU. Raymond Fry.
June 3, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, G-RFRY said: Bear in mind the EU test for power draw in there banding, this is to stop excessive power required to run the product under the green energy rules. already some products are band in the EU. What products are ‘band’ in the EU?
June 3, 20251 yr Author 1 hour ago, DD_Arthur said: What products are ‘band’ in the EU? Some 8K TVs draw too much power to meet the requirements. Raymond Fry.
June 4, 20251 yr https://www.mediaworld.it/it/category/tv-8k-400104.html Doesn’t seem to be any shortage of 8k tellys in Italy?
June 4, 2025Jun 4 Author 4 hours ago, DD_Arthur said: https://www.mediaworld.it/it/category/tv-8k-400104.html Doesn’t seem to be any shortage of 8k tellys in Italy? Now yes but at first, they did not meet the requirements. This is due to the increasing cost and demand for electricity in the EU. Some industries have had to reduce power at certain time of the day affecting production. Raymond Fry.
June 4, 2025Jun 4 Author https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/03/schneider_electric_says_us_grid/ Raymond Fry.
June 4, 2025Jun 4 On 6/3/2025 at 3:00 PM, dave2013 said: Oh, they'll probably sell them, but at a higher price to compensate them for the extended support..... Presumably this means that users of the latest Nvidia cards have at least one hundred years of support? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
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