June 21, 2025Jun 21 4 hours ago, sd_flyer said: I'm not sure what to make of this anecdote. CFI who apply for flight school first must satisfy entry requirements (hours, dual time and etc) and then go through vetting process demonstrating flying and teaching skills . That is how it's done to my knowledge. For the sake of time I shortened the story exponentially, haha. For the longer version, the pilot passed his CFI Initial and was shopping around for his first CFI job. He called a school at his airport to check on an application he had sent. The Chief Instructor and Co owner seemed irate off the start, talking about how all these fresh CFI's know nothing and need way more experience before shooting out applications. The CFI couldn't get a word in through the co owners rant. Finally the Co Owner asked the CFI what the name of his cert was, and after the CFI answered Certified Flight Instructor the Co Owner told him it's actually Certificated, and that he didn't even know the name of the certificate he had... how could he expect to teach students? And then hung up on him. Of course all of that is way more words than my initial tongue in cheek response, and since its off topic I didn't want to clutter the thread with it. 12 minutes ago, Rusty Spanner said: I know what I make of it That I'm lying? Could be. But what would be the point? Cheers. Edited June 21, 2025Jun 21 by WestAir Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
June 21, 2025Jun 21 14 minutes ago, WestAir said: For the sake of time I shortened the story exponentially, haha. For the longer version, the pilot passed his CFI Initial and was shopping around for his first CFI job. He called a school at his airport to check on an application he had sent. The Chief Instructor and Co owner seemed irate off the start, talking about how all these fresh CFI's know nothing and need way more experience before shooting out applications. The CFI couldn't get a word in through the co owners rant. Finally the Co Owner asked the CFI what the name of his cert was, and after the CFI answered Certified Flight Instructor the Co Owner told him it's actually Certificated, and that he didn't even know the name of the certificate he had... how could he expect to teach students? And then hung up on him. Of course all of that is way more words than my initial tongue in cheek response, and since its off topic I didn't want to clutter the thread with it. Whether it spelled "certificated" or "certified", it doesn't make any difference! I've seen my load of "old aviation geezer" who had their own "thing" about old school terminology or a way it use to be in 60th or whatever. If you don't know it - you fail! Really dumb! Code words make only much sense to a reasonable expense! There is no difference if it spelled "certificated" or "certified" Play around with words anyway you want but it all comes down to actually flying and teaching skills. Things are changing all the time and so FAA used terminology! As business owner myself fancy resume or right choice of keywords do not impress me. Before I hire anyone I gave them trial period where my potential employees actually manifest practical skills. It really should be about that! Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
June 21, 2025Jun 21 50 minutes ago, sd_flyer said: Whether it spelled "certificated" or "certified", it doesn't make any difference! I've seen my load of "old aviation geezer" who had their own "thing" about old school terminology or a way it use to be in 60th or whatever. If you don't know it - you fail! Really dumb! Code words make only much sense to a reasonable expense! There is no difference if it spelled "certificated" or "certified" Play around with words anyway you want but it all comes down to actually flying and teaching skills. Things are changing all the time and so FAA used terminology! As business owner myself fancy resume or right choice of keywords do not impress me. Before I hire anyone I gave them trial period where my potential employees actually manifest practical skills. It really should be about that! I agree with you. My story wasn't meant to antagonize you, I only thought it was humorous and fit in the discussion of "Whats CFI stand for?" That got the other guy all riled up. I don't post in AVSIM often so sometimes I forget the etiquette here. Sorry. Take-offs are optional, landings are mandatory.The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. To make a small fortune in aviation you must start with a large fortune.There's nothing less important than the runway behind you and the altitude above you. It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
June 21, 2025Jun 21 2 hours ago, WestAir said: I don't post in AVSIM often so sometimes I forget the etiquette here. Sorry. Etiquette is not in the dictionary for some. Certainly, don’t lose sleep over it! One thing for sure. You have the best signature on AVSim. Much better than listing boring computer specs! Edited June 21, 2025Jun 21 by The Flight Level Latest video at The Flight Level Flight Over Frozen Lake Erie - Between Ice and Clouds - Ultimate Solitude - The Perfect Memory
June 21, 2025Jun 21 53 minutes ago, The Flight Level said: One thing for sure. You have the best signature on AVSim. Much better than listing boring computer specs! I always liked one of the loading messages from Cows (?) in 2020: ‘There are more planes in the sea than submarines in the air’ i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
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