8 minutes ago, Zangoose said:

because your original statement was that the only difference is the engines lol.

Because that' s the one that you will notice. The bigger cabin, the better fuel efficiency, the composite material is hardly noticeable at least in simulated terms.

The extended fuel tanks and the sharklets both also exist on the CEO. Maybe you should not use ChatGPT to compile your answers... 😉

Edited June 26, 2025Jun 26 by Farlis

2 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Because that' s the one that you will notice. The bigger cabin, the better fuel efficiency, the composite material is hardly noticeable.

The extended fuel tanks and the sharklets both also exist on the CEO. Maybe you should not use ChatGPT to compile your answers... 😉

You may want to re-read the thread - I didn't post the list from "ChatGPT". It was another member of the forum who posted said list. 

Edited June 26, 2025Jun 26 by Zangoose

23 minutes ago, Farlis said:

If you find any, I'm all ears, because I haven't seen any of significance.

 

And that list of yours basically solidifies what I said: There're no notable difference between the types. It's all quality of life and more like evolutionary changes and more about reducing costs for the airlines. It's nothing you will notice in a desk job simulation, other than a slight difference in engine behaviour.

 

In the end in terms of operating them actively and what goes on under the hood they are virtually identical and it's simply ludicrous to deflect any comparisms between Fenix and FSLB on the basis alone that one is a CEO and the other a NEO.

I'd say you will see more differences in behaviour of systems in the 737MAX compared to the 737NG than you will see to a A320CEO and a A320NEO.

Coming from another streamer whose a pilot the flying tends to be different in the NEO compared to a CEO and the NEO's do love slam the nose wheel and that they actually prefer to fly the CEO during stormy weather.

Edited June 26, 2025Jun 26 by carlanthony24

It takes time to "convert" from the Fenix to the FSlabs Airbusses. Now after a few days, the FSlabs has become my firm favourite. True, the EFB is more friendly in the Fenix version and it's more automated,but once you get to know the Fslabs tablet, it's more involved and imersive.

Edited July 3, 2025Jul 3 by Jude Bradley

On 6/25/2025 at 5:41 PM, Farlis said:

You do know that the only difference between the CEO and the NEO is the engine?

It should really be put this way.  There are CEO Basic and CEO Enhanced aircraft.  All NEO are enhanced aircraft and come with sharklets.  The Basic original A320 family had CRT's for the displays. That would be the most notable difference the eye catches when you enter the flight deck.  Over the course of its life many things have changed with the Basic aircraft.  Most notable the FMGC software, flight control software standards (ELAC standards), flight warning computer standards and MCDU functionality options (some optional per operator preference).  All these changes eventually led to the development of the enchanced version being developed.

When the Enhanced CEO were developed the A320 family went from CRT's to LED displays (larger) as well as some system changes. For instance the landing gear system and its hydraulics were modified with the enhanced version.  If you look at the American Airlines fleet there are enhanced CFM sharklet A319's and IAE sharklet A321's.   However when they merged with US Airways, they received enhanced IAE and CFM 321's with wing fences.  So a fleet can have quite a mix.  Now American Airlines is taking the old Basic 319 aircraft and converting them to look enhanced in the flight deck.  So a bit of Frankenstein there..ha. ha.   

NEO's do have some differences other than the engines.  In real life they don't have the same feel for landing as the non NEO family. All aircraft pre NEO have a flight control logic of auto trim down (around 100 RA) to create an artificial feel of pressure to give the pilot a sense of resistance when flaring for touchdown.  The NEO doesn't do that and it feels a bit different.  NEO's also have different landing light options and may also have less flight computers than the 2 ELAC's, 2 FAC's and 3 SEC standard you typically see.  

Clear as mud right?

I have been on the Airbus for over 20 years and have about 15000+ hours on them and honestly I have a tough time keeping things straight 🙂. Maybe it's all the chem trails I have flown through 🙂 .

Much love to the sim community, I may fly for a living but I don't suffer from big fish small pond mentality.  I just love to share my experience and put perspective on things.   Seeing the enthusiasm of this community and how so many folks immerse themselves into these subjects and understand is awesome and is what keeps the developers going.  Also this community always helps me with how to find files, change settings and understand how to get the most out of my computer and simulators.  So much thanks to the computer guys that keep me flying on these web boards!

If you love Airbus .. google Airbus Safety magazine.  I believe they are free and don't require any login's.  They are a great resource if you like systems and the Airbus philosophy of engineering.  They are easy to read and have great graphics.  You can easily add this to your experience.  It typically covers A220 all the way up to the A380.

Edited September 22, 2025Sep 22 by AWACactus

AWACactus, greetings,

Thanks for this post. Really interesting. I quite enjoy the FSL airbus. I will check out the magazine you mentioned.

I flew for 40 years, mainly blue collar aviation of which only 7 was regional which I left to get into fire suppression flying(10 years). The first 17 years was rotary. The last 7 was as a govt aviation safety inspector, flight ops stuff. On the whole I  found being an inspector rewarding as being at the end of my career I wasn't concerned about climbing the ladder and could help people correct a situation rather than being the hammer. Most people don't get out of bed thinking today is a great day to go bust an air reg or two. 

Where I'm going with this is not having done your career path I find your type of machinery fascinating. Something like the FSL airbus is as close as I'll ever come to getting my hands on one. Love to get in a level D sim.  The Mike Ray books go a long way in learning. Mike talks in a language most sim pilots can easily understand.

Again, thanks for your post. I really enjoyed it. I will watch for more.