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Edited October 20, 2025Oct 20 by jcomm

I've been doing raw data ILSs since 1967.  🤣

Using steam gauges and a manual throttle.  Did my ATP in a DC-3.  

Yea, I'm old.  🤣

5 hours ago, BlueStar said:

Yea, I'm old.  🤣

Me too.

I never used an autopilot when I flew for airlines. I always flew ILSs without any helpers (Flight Directors etc) when ILS was available. Sometimes, it was a VOR approach or even NDB approaches ... the horror.

I'm a little jealous of todays pilots with the glass cockpits and so on. Maybe that's why I really enjoy flying simulated state of the art aircraft.

35 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

Me too.

I never used an autopilot when I flew for airlines. I always flew ILSs without any helpers (Flight Directors etc) when ILS was available. Sometimes, it was a VOR approach or even NDB approaches ... the horror.

I'm a little jealous of todays pilots with the glass cockpits and so on. Maybe that's why I really enjoy flying simulated state of the art aircraft.

I’m the exact opposite in regards to Flightsim. Since I fly airliners for a job today, I like to go back to less automated airplanes. 
 

 

6 hours ago, BlueStar said:

I've been doing raw data ILSs since 1967.  🤣

Using steam gauges and a manual throttle.  Did my ATP in a DC-3.  

Yea, I'm old.  🤣

I was flying the E-110 when I got my APTL. I'm old too.

22 hours ago, RichieFly said:

Sometimes, it was a VOR approach or even NDB approaches ... the horror.

And for some reason, unknown to mankind

 EASA, in 2025, still mandates that we need plenty of hours of pure NDB flying (picking QDM/QDR, NDB holds, NDB apch) before those syllabus items can be marked as "completed" for instrument ticket.

Recently I got a VOR hold, followed by ILS apch via racetrack defined by an ancient NDB/Locator and timer.
Subsequent approach was the RNP down to LPV minimums (roughly 280 ft AGL).

That's some time travelling right there. If there ever was one.