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COLLAPSE of Personal Computing?

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I watched one of his from 2 days ago about Nividia is : Abandoning the Personal Computer. In fact they aren't going to report sales and earnings in the gaming department any more, but roll the earnings in with other categories. Because PC sales are declining each year. And other stuff which goes along with your video. Also Metatron has posted videos.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

My question is are sales declining because nobody's interested in pc's, or are sales declining because the latest graphics cards are now out of most people's financial reach?

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5

It's the system RAM, and to a slightly lesser extent, storage. No one is going to build a new system at the current asking prices for those components. As a result, that snowballs into fewer CPUs, motherboards, and video cards being purchased/sold.

I have sixty four gigs of DDR5 ram. I could probably make a nice tidy little profit selling thirty two gigs of it.....

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5

At Amazon, the 32 GB of DDR4 that I bought for £58.99 in September 2024 is now £199.99 or £268.89, or even £656.73.
It is not surprising, but somewhat depressing, to see attempts by the greedy to rip off the anyone that they think they can.
Human nature is often flawed and for me, the worst flaw is greed, something that seems to be motivating far too much at present.

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4 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

I have sixty four gigs of DDR5 ram. I could probably make a nice tidy little profit selling thirty two gigs of it.....

Me too. But then I end up with one stick and not double data rate. ☹️

I'll give you both for a Ferrari or Buggati.

1 hour ago, martin-w said:

Me too. But then I end up with one stick and not double data rate. ☹️

I'll give you both for a Ferrari or Buggati.

Well, in my case I have four 16GB sticks, so I could still be fine....

Edited by HiFlyer

We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically.
 
Devons rig
Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB /  1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe /  1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
3 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

Well, in my case I have four 16GB sticks, so I could still be fine....

Do it my boy. You'll be rich! You can compete with Bezos and Elon.

I have a complete 2015 specification PC with 4x8GB sticks of DDR4-4266 RAM, a 6GB Nvidia GTX 980Ti, i5 7600k CPU, Noctua NH-U14S CPU air cooler, 1+2TB M2 Nvme drives, and an Asus Maximus IX Hero motherboard......and it was built by the best in the industry wink

Bidding starts at £2000......

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

I had to hold off building a new system as RAM prices are so outrageous right now.

I'm hoping that the memory chips companies will ramp up production so prices will come down. Micron is expanding their plants here in the U.S. and I'm sure other companies are doing the same, so hopefull more supply is coming.

I'm not too optimistic, though, as data center construction is through the roof, and more being planned all the time.

Dave

Simulator: P3Dv6.1

System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS

My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home

11 hours ago, Reader said:

At Amazon, the 32 GB of DDR4 that I bought for £58.99 in September 2024 is now £199.99 or £268.89, or even £656.73.
It is not surprising, but somewhat depressing, to see attempts by the greedy to rip off the anyone that they think they can.
Human nature is often flawed and for me, the worst flaw is greed, something that seems to be motivating far too much at present.

I'm sure that greed does play a role in a lot of the price increases we're experiencing, but I don't think that's the main factor where RAM is concerned.

The mad dash to build data centers has caused demand for chips to skyrocket in a short time and production hasn't caught up yet.

I just hope the chip manufacturers don't decide to become like OPEC and keep supply tight to keep prices up for more profit.

Dave

Edited by dave2013

Simulator: P3Dv6.1

System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS

My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home

3 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

......and it was built by the best in the industry wink.

Not true... I did NOT build your PC. 😒

Just read a news article about a Chinese company that's producing a lot of RAM now. Corsair just started using their chips.

I predict that RAM prices will come down over the next year. How much is unclear.

Dave

Simulator: P3Dv6.1

System Specs: Intel i7 13700K CPU, MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk Motherboard, 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Video Card, 3x 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 2280 SSDs, Windows 11 Home OS

My website for P3D stuff: https://sites.google.com/view/thep3dfiles/home

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