Just a LIME/LICC flight. I prefer the old EFB because it was more rational. The updated iFly B38M is heavy on VRAM, due to all the bells and whistles, which are absolute eye candy. The autopilot seems to lack confidence during banked turns, similar to PMDG, maybe this a real behavior? (I don't think so). The open beta testing by paying customers is now officially open.

15 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

Just a LIME/LICC flight. I prefer the old EFB because it was more rational. The updated iFly B38M is heavy on VRAM, due to all the bells and whistles, which are absolute eye candy. The autopilot seems to lack confidence during banked turns, similar to PMDG, maybe this a real behavior? (I don't think so). The open beta testing by paying customers is now officially open.

I think you're doing something wrong. There are no bells and whistles in the EFB, it runs like any other EFB. The auto polit works great for me. Maybe you adjust your bank angle setting. I guess some people can't handle change. Don't fight it just move on.

I spent about half an hour trying to get it to read my simbrief flight plan using the new EFB and then gave up. Any ideas where on earth I go to log in?

6 hours ago, pete_auau said:

Just did my first flight had one issue, tried the auto land everything was going fine than the nosed pitched up than did a nose dive to the ground where i couldn't recover from. Going to do the flight again see if it happens again

I definitely had this before the update. (Haven’t been able to try the new one yet)

1 hour ago, Langeveldt said:

I spent about half an hour trying to get it to read my simbrief flight plan using the new EFB and then gave up. Any ideas where on earth I go to log in?

In the Navigraph app on the EFB, on the enroute tab. Log in and enter your sim brief ID (only need to do this once), and then once you generate a flight plan in simbrief, use the buttons to import this plan into the EFB, and then "send all data to aircraft" will load the aircraft and uplink route for you.

22 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

In the Navigraph app on the EFB, on the enroute tab. Log in and enter your sim brief ID (only need to do this once), and then once you generate a flight plan in simbrief, use the buttons to import this plan into the EFB, and then "send all data to aircraft" will load the aircraft and uplink route for you.

Thank you sir. I was under the mistaken assumption Navigraph and Simbrief were not related.

Seems the WinCTRL Hardware does not work for the 189 seat model ( and probably not for the 166 seat model, the 166 seat model i have not tested yet ) but the 179 seat model does work so hoping for a fast update from WinCTRL.

Also we need simbrief profiles for the the 189 seat model and the 166 seat model, are there any available yet ?

If so, please anybody have the link ?

cheers 😉

2 hours ago, Bigmack said:

I think you're doing something wrong. There are no bells and whistles in the EFB, it runs like any other EFB. The auto polit works great for me. Maybe you adjust your bank angle setting. I guess some people can't handle change. Don't fight it just move on.

I think your assumption about what I’m assuming is wrong. The “bells and whistles” refer to all the cosmetic modeling features that took a lot of time but added nothing to the flight model, IFR navigation, or other critical aspects. As for the bank angle setting, I don’t see how it relates to the way the B38M is currently banking, I'm referring on the way the autopilot is doing that: similar and well known PMDG behavior in this regard.

1 minute ago, Claudius_ said:

I think your assumption about what I’m assuming is wrong. The “bells and whistles” refer to all the cosmetic modeling features that took a lot of time but added nothing to the flight model, IFR navigation, or other critical aspects. As for the bank angle setting, I don’t see how it relates to the way the B38M is currently banking, I'm referring on the way the autopilot is doing that: similar and well known PMDG behavior in this regard.

1. Bank angle setting doesn't affect LNAV. It's only used by Hdg Select and VOR/LOC modes. The FMC uses it's own maximum bank angle calculations and this is modeled correctly.

2. I've spent literal months testing the LNAV flight guidance / autopilot behavior during LNAV tuning, and while I am still able to find a few fringe cases on non-public procedures that it handles only acceptably but not perfectly, I doubt you're trying something like that. On all public procedures and many custom ones, the LNAV flight guidance far outshines the PMDG. It handles very complex .10 procedures beautifully. Can you describe more specifically what you're seeing that doesn't look good to you? What kind of cross track error are you seeing, on which procedure in what kind of conditions at what RNP, etc?

9 minutes ago, pmplayer said:

Seems the WinCTRL Hardware does not work for the 189 seat model ( and probably not for the 166 seat model, the 166 seat model i have not tested yet ) but the 179 seat model does work so hoping for a fast update from WinCTRL.

Also we need simbrief profiles for the the 189 seat model and the 166 seat model, are there any available yet ?

If so, please anybody have the link ?

cheers 😉

I believe they were already in simbrief with the plan being to turn them on to being publicly visible upon release. If that hasn't happened for all variants yet, I'm not sure why.

18 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

Can you describe more specifically what you're seeing that doesn't look good to you?

The autopilot seems to lack confidence during banked turns, similar to PMDG, maybe this a real behavior, or not?

14 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

The autopilot seems to lack confidence during banked turns, similar to PMDG, maybe this a real behavior, or not?

I guess I'm just not sure what you mean, so I can't say if you're seeing something different than me. Do you mean that the auto flight starts out with a slower rate of bank and then banks a bit faster as it recognizes this is necessary? That can happen in the plane, yes, especially during localizer capture. I've recognized it in the iFly as well and appreciated it.

I guess the main question is, is the plane going where it's supposed to for you? As in, is it staying on the magenta line (or localizer) or deviating from the desired course? I saw earlier reports of VNAV hunting for altitudes and oscillations on glideslope as well, which none of us experienced in testing, so it's curious. Just to verify, all control lockouts enabled in the My Plane app of the EFB?

4 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

I prefer the old EFB because it was more rational.

I must be dreaming 🫨

The old EFB was the antithesis of rational.

Well, based on my first flight - it's got my vote! 🙂

The EFB is so so so so so much easier to navigate without taking anything away from the challengingly precise way the aircraft and systems need to be operated. A very pleasing and welcome upgrade.

31 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

I guess I'm just not sure what you mean, so I can't say if you're seeing something different than me. Do you mean that the auto flight starts out with a slower rate of bank and then banks a bit faster as it recognizes this is necessary? That can happen in the plane, yes, especially during localizer capture. I've recognized it in the iFly as well and appreciated it.

I guess the main question is, is the plane going where it's supposed to for you? As in, is it staying on the magenta line (or localizer) or deviating from the desired course? I saw earlier reports of VNAV hunting for altitudes and oscillations on glideslope as well, which none of us experienced in testing, so it's curious. Just to verify, all control lockouts enabled in the My Plane app of the EFB?

There's nothing wrong with the VNAV, it's the way it's banking. But I need to do more testing. The PMDG 737-800's autopilot banking behavior is well known and never fixed; you can use that as a reference.