Well, I was hesitant to buy this version, so I watched a few streams and videos put out by my particular favorite sources and there is a mixed consensus from all. Not surprising to say the least. So I purchased the download and flew a couple of circuits at a local airport that is familiar to me and I just could not get over what I was seeing for vfr scenery. XP-12, vanilla flavor, is just horrible for low and slow, and I mean I was not expecting the quality of MSFS, but neither was I expecting the low quality of scenery that was on parade in front of my eyes. It was not even close to being a fair representation of the scenery in real life. I know there are other plus factors to 12, but I do not see the pluses making up for the minus things that are important to me. But I paid my $60.00 to support the effort and maybe Laminar can turn this part of the sim around before this goes to final release. I really want this XP 12 to succeed as I have a lot of recent addon purchases in 11 as well as future planes that I want to use in 12. Come on Laminar! P.S. The new beaches around the ponds and lakes look like word not allowed. Not every body of water has 100% beach front around it. What are you thinking?