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Looks very promising indeed. It would be interesting to see a movie of this piece of work. Maybe you can send your resume to LR... Cheers

Try to play with this dataref using Dataref Editor plugin sim/aircraft/controls/acf_elev_trim_speedrat I think the default value is 64. A higher value will accelerate the trim ratio. But the problem might be related to the switch itself. Someone else could explain that? Alan

Version 1.4 is officially out. Here’s the changes log. Ver 1.4 – June 4, 2013 DME receiver added (Bendix/King KN 62A) Extinguisher now fully functionnal. Follow Emergency Procedure if cabin fire occurs. Added a hidden switch over the pilot’s yoke to set input mode if yokes flicking occurs. Fixed a bug with the Variometer showing inaccurate vertical speed rate. Fixed a bug preventing the Transponder breaker to fail the device in specific configurations. Fixed a bug with the Autopilot device regarding altitude hold and ILS (GS) tracking. Fixed a bug in the Flaps actuation system preventing fixed increment adjustments with joystick input. Fixed a minor bug related to Vacuum gauge needle not turning off when electrical power fell below critical voltage. Starter sound improved. Happy flight Alan http://www.talisman-illustration-design.com/turbulence/files/C-GSEN_C172SP-WidePanel_v1.4.jpg

For those who didn’t notice, Maciej Swic post a video showing the engine startup procedure of my aircraft. Here’s the link. I plan to release an update (v1.4) very soon fixing minor bugs and including some new stuff. Happy flight Alan

The best is using an iPad and ForeFlight app. But you have to get an account to use it after the initial 30 days trial. Other options also exist on iPad. Maybe someone else will point to something else. Happy flight

Hi turner112, I’m not sure if you still looking for a good panel to fill your 27", but this might interest you. And totally free... http://forums.x-plan...&showfile=18737 or http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php/files/file/439-c172sp-wide-panel-project/ Alan

Thanks to everyone, I received so many good comments I’m overwhelm. Note that the v1.2 is up for grasp. Some minor bugs fixed. Keep flying! Alan

Hi again folks, To answer the question raised by w9nwrwi just be sure to activate the primer pump at least two time. Otherwise not enough fuel come into the system. Otherwise, regarding the power in other aircraft after using my panel, the problem is related to the state of some dataref left in failed mode. Just reset dataref to all operational if this behaviour still exist after using my panel. I thought a reload would do the job, but obviously not. Hope it help. Alan

Sorry for those who download the v1.0 that include a bug in the Checklist actuation side tab. I’ve uploaded a new installer v1.1 this morning to fix it. So If the checklist don't show if you click on the tab, just use the new version. P.-S. Fun to see how fast the news spread. Already 276 download and many kind comments in my email box. Thanks Alan

Saturday, March 9, 00Z at Greenwich so... As promised, my project if officially available. Hope you’ll enjoy it. Since it is freeware, your comments would be my only reward. Fly safe! Here the link to the installer: http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=18737 Alan

For the first time, the full resolution panel (be sure to zoom slightly cropped sidewise) and the ReadMe file included in the installer archive to come this saturday (March 9, 2013). http://www.talisman-...P-WidePanel.jpg Alan C 1 7 2 S P – W I D E P A N E L P R O J E C T Copyright © 2013 Talisman illustration design – Alan Fletcher / Alain Fréchette. All rights reserved. All art material contained in this archive is exclusive copyright of Talisman illustration design. No art files within, in part or in whole, may be copied, modified, re-distributed, disassembled, re-packaged or in any way be exploited for any commercial purpose without the express permission of Talisman illustration design. Any comment, suggestion mail to: [email protected] ------------------------- HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS ------------------------- Fast CPU (Multi core recommended) Fast GPU with 1 Gb vram Large screen (minimum 1920 px wide, 2048 px+ recommended) X-Plane 10 running at 64 Bit mandatory for smoothness -------------- INSTALLATION -------------- Unzip the file «C172SP_WidePanel_C.zip» and copy the extracted content into your .../Aircraft/General Aviation folder. For maximum experience copy, one by one, the provided «Resources files» into their corresponding X-Plane Resources folder (don’t forget to make a copy of the original files in case of problem). Enjoy! I recommend the usage of the excellent plugin X-Hobb (http://forums.x-plan...&showfile=11770). ----------------- VERSION HISTORY ----------------- Ver 1.0 – March 9, 2013 Initial Release ---------------- MAIN FEATURES ---------------- Project entirely developed in PlaneMaker (no plugin involve) Match the specifications of the C172SP model modified for training purpose like a P model (160 HP, carburated, 30° max flap setting) A fuel injected, 180 HP version will be released later. Custom HD panel 2048 x 1840 pixel (implemented into the stock C172 from X-PLANE/www.dmax.it) (2D version only / 3D cockpit disabled) Day and Night textures Custom livery Custom sounds (Engine/Prop, Ground roll and contact, Skid, Ignition/Starter, Master/Avionics Switches, Primer, Breakers, Key set, Autopilot warn, Trim wheel, Flaps, Rain and Wind) -------- WARNING -------- This project required hundreds of hours of labor and thinking to make it as close as possible to the real thing. I pushed to the limit the hacking concept of X-Plane in many ways, using wrong dataref to trigger actions and instruments. The electrical system for example is highly customized to bypass some strange behaviours found initially in the coding of X-Plane. Due to the complexity of this project (just open it to see by yourself) DO NOT ATTEMP to modify the «.acf» file provided. Doing so is at your own risk. Keep the original ZIP file for backup purpose. ------------------ ENGINE INSTRUMENTS ------------------ Electrical signal from each engine instrument sensor wired to INST breaker FUEL (L-R) GAUGE No special feature EGT / FF GAUGE (Exhaust Gas Temperature/Fuel Flow) EGT Ref moveable needle OIL TEMP / PRESS GAUGE No special feature VACUUM / AMMETER GAUGE Ammeter needle show real time current from/to the Battery (reflecting electrical load in use) CARB TEMPERATURE GAUGE (Carburated model only) Custom instrument (never seen before in any aircraft) Keep needle out of yellow arc if power setting is below green arc in icing conditions A red light illuminates if icing level get critical HOBBS METER No special feature (X-Hobb plugin recommended for realism) ---------- ELECTRICAL ---------- VOLTMETER / THERMOMETER °C/°F (using O.A.T. / Volt button) Instrument display Voltage on startup DIGITAL CLOCK 4 Time mode (using Select/Control buttons) Local Time (LT) Zulu Time (UT) Flight Time (FT – Automatic Start/Reset on starter engage, decimal presentation) Timer mode (ET) STARTER Real key system (Removable) Key rotates in starter (5 positions) Keychain (in starter) react to aircraft movement in flight Custom sound MASTER SWITCHES ALT (controls the Alternator, 28 Volt-60 amp. system) BAT (controls Battery power, 24 Volt-696 watt/hour) Custom switch sound ROCKER SWITCHES (No special feature) Custom switch sound FUEL PUMP (fuel injected model only, not released yet) BCN (beacon light, rotating red light on top of vertical stabilizer) LAND (landing light, white light on pilot side wing) TAXI (taxi light, white light on pilot side wing) NAV (navigation lights, red on pilot wing tip, green on co-pilot wing tip) STROBE (strobe light, Flashing white on top of vertical stabilizer) PITOT HEAT (pitot tube heating, for icing condition) AVIONICS SWITCH Power Avionics Bus 1 & Bus 2 Must be ON for Radio Stack operations Custom switch sound BREAKER PANEL Push-to-reset and switch/breaker types Avionics board (Upper row) AVN FAN (no dataref available yet) AUTO PILOT (power the AP device) GPS (power the Garmin 430 device) NAV COM 1 (power the navcom1 radio) NAV COM 2 (power the navcom2 radio) ADF (power the ADF receiver) XPNDR (power the transponder device Master board (Lower row) FLAP (power the flap actuator) INST (power the engine instruments needles) AVN BUS 1 (power the Avionics Bus 1 including: GPS, NavCom 2, ADF and Transponder) AVN BUS 2 (power the Avionics Bus 2 including: Intercom, NavCom 1 and Autopilot/servos) TURN COORD (power the electric gyro) INST LTS (power the instruments lights) ALT FLD (power the Alternator / pull out in case of over voltage indication) WARN (no dataref available yet) ------------------ ANNUNCIATOR PANEL ------------------ Blinking test mode L Low fuel R Illuminates if tank level fall below 5 gallons (L or R or both) Brakes Illuminates if brakes (park or pedal) applied (even partially) Oil Press Illuminates if oil pressure fall below 20 PSI L Low Vac R (two vacuum pumps, supply suction to both heading and attitude indicators) Illuminates if suction fall below 4.5 inch of Hg Volts Illuminates if Alternator fail (or engine off) Illuminates if Battery overcharge ------------------- HNAV SELECTOR PANEL ------------------- Nav signal source (NAV1 or GPS) used by Autopilot for navigation If Autopilot HNAV engaged, using this button will disconnect it ----------- RADIO STACK ----------- All 7 instruments release their electrical load if Master Avionics if turned OFF, or if turned OFF individually Master Avionics must be ON for operations (min. electrical power required 22 V.) INTERCOM (Bendix KMA 26) Goes ON as soon Master Bus powered Mike knob controls radio output device (Transmit icon «T» illuminate on corresponding navcom radio) Buttons (green led illuminate if device selected for hearing / Receive icon «R» illuminate on corresponding navcom radio) Electrically wired to breaker AVN BUS 2 (linked to the failure system) GPS (Garmin 430 / XP stock version) Could be switch ON-OFF individually 20 sec. initializing delay on startup Electrically wired to breakers AVN BUS 1 and GPS (linked to the failure system) Must be ON for Autopilot operations NAVCOM 1 (Bendix KAP 155A) Could be switch ON-OFF individually Big & clear LCD display (with ghost led segments) 10 memory bank (use CHAN button to select. Use Plane Maker to change frequencies C172_WidePanel/RADIO STACK/NavCom1 Radio/Com1 Channel Bank) Nav Vol knob (must be ON for hearing signal) Receive icon «R» illuminate if device selected (intercom button) for hearing Transmit icon «T» illuminate if device selected (intercom mike knob) for transmitting Timer mode (same dataref as clock timer due to actual X-Plane limitation) Electrically wired to breakers AVN BUS 2 and NAV COM 1 (linked to the failure system) Must be ON for Autopilot operations NAVCOM 2 (Bendix KAP 155A) Could be switch ON-OFF individually Big & clear LCD display (with ghost led segments) 10 memory bank (use CHAN button to select. Use Plane Maker to change frequencies C172_WidePanel/RADIO STACK/NavCom2 Radio/Com2 Channel Bank) Nav Vol knob (must be ON for hearing signal) Receive icon «R» illuminate if device selected (intercom button) for hearing Transmit icon «T» illuminate if device selected (intercom mike knob) for transmitting Timer mode (same dataref as clock timer due to actual X-Plane limitation) Electrically wired to breakers AVN BUS 1 and NAV COM 2 (linked to the failure system) ADF (Bendix KR 87) Could be switch ON/OFF Big & clear LCD display (with ghost led segments) ANT, ADF and BFO receiving Mode with icons Flight time mode (decimal presentation, use same dataref as clock FT mode due to X-Plane limitation) Electrically wired to breakers AVN BUS 1 and ADF 1 (linked to the failure system) TRANSPONDER (Bendix KT 70) Could be switch ON-OFF Big & clear LCD display (with ghost led segments) Flight level, and squawk mode icons (SBY, ON, ALT) including test mode VFR (1200) button Electrically wired to breakers AVN BUS 1 and XPNDR (linked to the failure system) AUTOPILOT (Bendix KAP 140 - 2 axes) 25 sec. initializing delay on startup / Self test intro Device always engage in ROL / VS mode on startup (or after disconnect) Very close to actual device including blink mode Big & clear LCD display (with ghost led segments) Servos status led (linked to the failure system) Custom disconnect sound Due to PlaneMaker limitation, ALT/VS button could not be stacked, so I placed them side by side Electrically wired to breakers AVN BUS 2 and AUTO PILOT (linked to the failure system) Probably the nicest simulation of a King KAP 140 autopilot that you’ll find in any freeware airplane Autopilot will disconnect if Breaker AUTO PILOT is pulled out Breaker GPS is pulled out Breaker NAV COM 1 is pulled out Breaker AVN BUS 2 is pulled out Breaker TURN COORD is pulled out Avionics Switch toggle Master Bus power OFF GPS device power OFF Nav Com 1 power OFF Trim wheel activated Autopilot will not engage if GPS OFF NavCom1 OFF Breaker TURN COORD is pulled out ------------------ FLIGHT INSTRUMENTS ------------------ Large & clear numbers All 6 instruments could be individually covered with a «failed cap» for training purpose (click on the instrument face) AIRSPEED INDICATOR True Air Speed (TAS) knob with moveable card (including zoom function) ATTITUDE INDICATOR Pitch indicator drove by XP code ALTIMETER Kollsman window (including zoom function) Needle reacting if Alternate Static Port used TURN&BANK COORDINATOR Electric gyro with custom sound (if Master Bus alive) Electrically link to breaker Turn Coord HEADING INDICATOR (Gyro Compass) VARIOMETER Needle reacting if Alternate Static Port used ---------------- NAV INSTRUMENTS ---------------- VOR 1 (uses NavCom 1 signal) Localizer-Glide slope needles VOR 2 (uses NavCom 2 signal) Localizer needle only ADF Needle drove by XP code Fixed card with sync knob MAGNETIC COMPASS Real ball effect (not plain ribbon) Jerky motion in turbulence or velocity change Click on the instrument to trigger E6B flight computer --------- CONTROLS --------- YOKES 2 Axes (pitch & roll) movement (with scale effect) Locked at startup (removable Control Lock plate) Separate texture shadow (to increase 3d perception) RUDDER PEDALS Reacting to input device (joystick ou rudder pedals) THROTTLE 1/4 inch mark visible on shaft (for starting procedure) Separate texture shadow (to increase 3d perception) MIXTURE Coarse (pull) and Fine (rotate) mode Separate texture shadow (to increase 3d perception) CARB HEAT (Carburated model only) Separate texture shadow (to increase 3d perception) PRIMER (Carburated model only) Mandatory usage before each flight (2 stroke minimum) Fully animated Custom sound Separate texture shadow (to increase 3d perception) FLAPS ACTUATOR Master Bus must be alive to actuate Moving indicator pin Custom sound ALTERNATE STATIC AIR Affect Variometer and Altimeter needles if actuated (always check twice to detect static port cloggage) LIGHT RHEOSTAT Panel light level control Instruments light level control CABIN HEAT Allow hot air into cabin if cold outside (help to melt frost on windshield) CABIN AIR Allow cool air into cabin (no other function yet) PARK BRAKE Animated Lock-Unlock position (drag handle left-right) TRIM WHEEL Wheel animation drove by XP code Custom sound FUEL SELECTOR / FUEL SHUTOFF VALVE ELT SWITCH No dataref available yet --------- SPECIAL FX --------- PROPELLER Visible at all time Aspect changes depending of speed prop Prop angle randomly set at startup matching outside view (3D model) HEADSET On sunshade at startup (click on it to hide. Click on the plug to show it again. No other function yet) E6B FLIGHT COMPUTER Pressing on the face of the magnetic compass trigger this handy instrument (visible on the right side of the panel) WINDSHIELD FROST effect Variable opacity depending of OAT Could melt using Cabin Heat control (some time needed, be patient) Don’t forget to replace the default (2d_snow_flakes.png) texture by the one supplied for max effect RAIN effect Rain drops (still and moving) Prop wash (cool) Don’t forget to replace the default (2d_rain_drops.png) texture by the one supplied for max effect Custom sound SUNGLARE effect Moves according to sun position and time of day Don’t forget to replace the default (scratches.png) texture by the one supplied for max effect DYNAMIC SHADOWS Panel shadow Hard shadows (sunny days) / Moves according to sun position and time of day Soft shadows (cloudy days) / Variable opacity, depending of external light attenuation GLOVE BOX Contain POH and First Aid Kit (for preflight checklist, could be missing sometime) EXTINGUISHER Working gauge (needle could be out of green arc randomly) Will help extinguishes cabin fire in future update CARBON MONOXID DETECTOR CARD Center will turn dark after cabin fire (No dataref available yet for real purpose) SIDE TABS Checklist Normal & Emergency Click on side tab to show/hide 8 tab, easy navigation Click on tab to jump to OR click on page to scroll down Click on the checklist header (top part) to close Reset to tab 1 on startup Doors Open-Close Icon (for checklist purpose) Trigger doors mouvement Seatbelt On-Off Icon (for checklist purpose) Trigger seatbelt state WEATHER Visibility To increase the visibility in preset increment (1, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 20, 30, 50 or 100 statute miles) Visual annunciator provided for feedback (stay ON for 3 sec) Actual For real weather conditions (time will be set to now and real-weather downloaded from the net) Will work only «One Time» (first time press) due to some PlaneMaker limitation VFR For immediate VFR conditions (no cloud, 15 sm visibility) IFR For immediate IFR conditions (3 cloud layers, 6 sm visibility, no rain)

Great news. My project is done. I’ll make it public this saturday morning. Freeware! P.-S. one happy member received the privilege to test it before everyone. He was flabbergasted! Stay tuned...

Not yet. But I’m not sure if it will be done one day. Personally I don’t feel good in a 3D cockpit, with everything distorted like a fish eye. I made my wide panel very close (in term of point of view) to a real C172, while sitting in pilot seat. Remember that I model and render it (with radiosity and HDR) using a 3D software (Cinema 4D) and actually, no game engine can approach this quality of image, which took hours to compute. So for now it would be it. +

Ha ha, In fact, they are trigger for different things, like Checklists visibility, and 3 weather related actions (for immediate VFR, IFR or Actual conditions, or to set the visibility range.) All in one click. Very handy for training purpose. Thanks for your interest. Alan

Hi simmers. Like every beginning of year, I’m completely devoted to work. Hopefully, in two weeks, I’ll be able to finish my project. In fact, the panel is done and 100% functional. I just want to submit it to LR for approval before releasing it. Here two more pictures of the modified stock C172SP. http://www.talisman-...es/C172WP-1.png http://www.talisman-...es/C172WP-4.png Since my last post, in December ( :blush: ), I debug a lot of details and I can assure you’ll be amaze to see a 2D panel not so boring. I plan to post a video of the aircraft in action... very soon. Cheers Alan

Finally a 64 bit have been released yesterday. Wow! and better than ever. http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=11770 Thanks to Barbarossa.

Thanks for the link. Cool to see all these add-on come to life and make XP better. I’m rushing to try it. +

Interesting post. As you can see, LR should rely more on external resources. A lot of man power can be found around the world for that kind of job. As a graphic designer I know that for sure. It took me 5 min to merge two files found in previous posts and makes this custom winter tree set. It would be interesting to experiment with ground textures as well. Alan +

Also try to limit the visibility range to max 15 miles. For me it makes a nice boost in frame rate (±15 fps). +

Since the introduction of 64bit (so smooth compare to 32), all my plugins became obsolete. The one I miss the most is xhobbs. I wonder why Laminar Research did not address this missing functionality. It’s just a matter of reading and saving a dataref after all (I’m I wrong?). It would be interesting to have the developer input on this subject. Thanks anyway for making this great simulator. Alan

Thanks Chuck. I'll investigate to find my problem.

Hi, I’m having big trouble with the autopilot of the stock C172. Impossible to make an ILS approach or maintain altitude. Does anyone notice and confirm that? Running XP 10.20 beta 7 (same behaviour with 32 or 64 bits) I tested the same aircraft with XP 10.11 and the AP is Ok. So it must be a bug introduced somewhere in between... Thanks

Hi Dozer, Maybe this would help. Some good explanation I found useful in my project. http://www.iflyameri...cal-systems.asp Alan

Wow, 64bits so smooth on my setup. More steady framerate. Great improvement over 32. Thanks LR

A quick update... Since my last post I worked very hard (you have no idea) to find a walkaround for the problematic electric system. Now, everything is up and running for the navcom1 radio, so I’ll apply the same technique for the rest of the stack. I’m now sure to be able to release the project before christmas. +