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Mesh changing, is always with some airports a lot of work to adapt airports and around altitudes (I use ade). How precies are the new meshes, how more difficult to have all airports well. To simplify... I suggest to verify the arrival airport and if problems to use trough the flight a lower level of mesh. So normaly, I keep the mesh recommended by orbx and when I want in montains have mesh pleasure, only in this case, I declared the new FSmesh with higher level of lot. (Take a lot of disk space)... With older sceneries perhaps work with the sim level, very flat but no time consuming to correct it, (if you landing or take off, one time only, is not a good idea to spend time for correct de flattening.)

Personnaly...no time to spend to do as jabloomf1230 ;-)) good luck... I feel that this UTL solft is a temporaly version to wait a better solution in v4 with actualised flags and high quality ai-aircrafts. The invest of devellopers of a real new ai-software seem to be reported for later...

Hello vgbaron with this topic, I try UTL myself, besore...I was working with traffic 360... Most olders traffics-softs have aircrafts no compatibles p3dv4 and crashed when old ai aircrafts (created fs2004) are started.... In v4 It's, I think, the first one who make a version for v4 ( future standard in replacement of fsx...). Except some ones, most of ai-aircrafts of UTL are very well done. What is a good idea in UtL is the pannel for departures and arrivals, so you know what happens with the ai-aircrafts moving on the airport where you are...near real schedules. Less is... that UTL take a few minutes to make self-schelduling and placement of aircrafts on your airport. Best one ? No don't think so but in v4 is well...

To prepare a world tour, I have after years most of orbx sceneries (I'm a fan ;-) in Europe and other countries. Orbx sure is the world leader... Simple tought... that the first who don't take care to other devellopers is orbx, a lot of aerosoft airports are well without installing orbx and are conflicts after installing orbx. Yes ftx central and vectors fix and disable some bgl with a autoscanning. But after, in reality, I lost a lot of time to make AS compatible and other dev. with orbx. the big problem is that most creators don't take care of the medium level of the real altitude of a airport... The sim is himself bad because of first microsoft airports in scenery folders on a low mesh. The base of the sim is clearly old one. I read in the past on french forum that France vfr and someones have discuted about a common base for working. No answered by orbx. I don't want to said that orbx is no correct... Only the law of the dominant is in work. Don't said that France VFR is a shame is not reality.* Now in v4, I don't understand, a little sad, that orbx don't change the organisation in our sim with xml in documents folder as recommanded by LM... *no any contact with France Vfr, is a personnal mind.

A simple personnal though... Turbulent on orbx sceneries work well alone (and for me more real and nicer). I think that to said that Turbulent is compatible orbx trees is for, me only, a diplomatic declaration... A manner to preserve good relations whit other developpers 😎. Not necessary to buy bouth, make your choice on one of the other.

Of course, is because 90% of buyers are... French speaking simmers...is a little communauty compare to NorthAmerican+English+Australian simmers who flight a lot in their countries.. (Perhaps 80% of the sim market) But if you know as me the real terrain of France, there are few big countries in the world so near the reality with a lot of real elements placed mostly on photoreal bgl.. Have a cost to process... Least ones have a new technology used and now compatible p3dv4. For Isle of France and airports (3 big and -/+ 12 smaller GA), is exact to said is a "lot to much" and to be flyable must actived only the part you want fly on it... A little as around London if you open all the airports arround the fps is dead... This zone is very difficult in reality because the proximity of airspaces with strict reglementations... Is a deal to do in a sim a good pln with restrictions respected to go from west to east of Paris (with or whithout vfr sceneries). Justely today I want upgraded to v4 the 2 Alpes Provence addons (PACA)... The regions along the Mediterranean coast. For a few flying on France... Is the best solution, well done and better fps. When I want making international flights (ifr rules) trough Europa), it is the only addons enabled in mine sim (with one airport if landing or take off in France). Good flight and welcome in France.

Now mine Ai aircrafts look very different that before, nicer with smooth movements,... well done job I wish a lot of success to this nice soft UTL, the first one directed for v4

Thanks Simon Full success !!! Frankfurt retreive activities ! 🙂🙃🙂 happy I'm Mark

I try it and come back, thanks

Probably for landscapes, the videos are done with orbx sceneries, look great. For France, one editor "france vfr" have for each region a addon to do realistic vfr flights. In England UK 2000 make nice airports Norway is wonderfull with Orbx Nederlanden (NL2000) is a group of creators who make free sceneries. Aerosoft have a lot of Great-airports in Europe. Germany is well done too by their. For the other lands, I choice between orbx and aerosoft airports...

Hi Max Edit your scenery.cfg and normaly near the end of the entries, disable the ORBX_AGN_NEW entry.

Just installed UTL in p3dv4,... After deinstalling first traffic 360 Yes now I have beautifull ai aircrafts on parkings but none traffic on taxiways runways and in the sky... I miss perhaps a point of the installation 0n p3dv4 start... the client coming well active in the menu above I have the shortcuts. The traffic is set on 100 in the sim and in the setup programm of UTL, and have saved this setting. in document/p3dv4 addons, there is a xml well pointed to the sim folder and the client ( I don't change mine Exe.xml and simobjects.cfg because is normaly done by this xml in the documents folder) A little help is very welcome...

Don't really see fps decreasing...

Don't forgett to read points of interest in pdf , they are a lot and be able to see it on Google earth ;-)

Well done, nice pictures, sure the orbx German South is a nice addon to have. Make some real flights over Germany, And now in sim we are able to have the good feeling. In your pictures too... Are good shots of german's countries...

Dear, in few words.. Please, keep one sim in 32 bits... to be able to retrieve some addons you like a lot !... Who never shall be upgrated... For expl: some of Milviz or... ( perhaps?) Coming from a v4 addict ;-)

Thanks, C185... I look on Carenado site on p3d pages and because no entry I think... don't be compatible yet...

A miss of person this your method I spoke :))

I ignore it, Russel and thank you,. Just a little text error... ;-)) Thank you a lot, for your big job... And your following of costumers

But on flight one, the link above show a page where the site write "Notice: This product is now FSX, FSX Steam, Prepar3D v2, v3, and v4 compatible." How to know the verity ? Perhaps a fault of info on F1...

I agree and have notice it on this forum ;-) A great value for the outstanding of landscapes... but Russel, your site have actualy the link to version 1.1, not ready yet for downloading ?

Sure ;-) the sens of mine comment to asanal is: some aircrafts are a little more difficult to trim well, this a question of feeling for the machine you fly. The method of Gregg above is the right one to do, as learned by real pilots. With the Da42 or 40, the finesse near a planner of those aircrafts make that you more often correct your trims following lift acting arround the aircraft... ;-))

To buy a kat in a bag... Personnaly I banned some very great sim-sites* for that reasons... The only way for me in the future is to buy only when in the description of product, the compatibility for the version v4 is writed black on white without confusion possible.... Orbx or Carenado are very well, you are sure of the transaction you do. Some knowed editors hyde this information because their products are not yet ready... Mark * plus generaly the same sites make paying 5 $ to retreive your's downloads or upgrades after one year... They don't have any cost to keep some simple links in a database... Horribilis

To test, I follow the Rhin in Orbx Germany South with this addon, flying by hand from Dusseldorf to Heildeberg. The trim is a little more difficult than some others because this fine aircraft, well powered, have a tendance to climb. Before, I don't have a hardware for trims, With buttons this is more difficult to make a fine trim...

Before understanding that some .dll or .fx from v3 version are bad because programmed in 32 bits... I was less in fps... Folder effects is a hight risk folder After making a clean reinstall of the v4, I reinstalled only first time the upgraded versions v4 of addons and tested the sim for each add. When I read on forum that a older scenery addon is working in v4. I make before a full bckup of mine sim and only after I try and verify the candidate with more attention... Sure, I never try to install aircraft not upgrated to V4. Mine scenery.cfg have after few weeks more than 600 tested entries... was A big challenge and time consumming. Lost of time ? Absolutely no. Because now I have the best sim that never have... Wondersky to fly... have a good day and hope for you a rapidely come back in a clear v4 sky. mark