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Why is that for you to decide. Get the information or dont. I am not involved with VoxATC but I think your comments are very negative and demanding.

Would be nice with a quality KSMX, Santa Maria as well. Then we would have four very nice airports L52 Oceano, KSBP San Luis Obispo and your Paso Robles. Very nice for short scenic tours in wine country 😁

I loved the Realair Legacy back in the day. This version will probably be a mighty nice addon when complete as much as the A2A probably will be. Look forward to try it. Most likely later though. Dont want to be a part time bete tester without compensation and still pay full price for my service/patience. Dont like that approach and never will as common as it seems to get unfortunately.

French Valley I would really love. I try to keep my VFR flying inside the San Diego TAC and with all your San Diego airports and Dreamflight Palomar really not all that many airports are missing now exept French Valley and some otehr smaller ones 🙂

True but SI comes at a higher price for the developer than BATC since its AI based and naturally that cost is forwarded to the end user. Again though, a BMW is more expensive than a Skoda so one has a choice depending on level of want. This said the day BATC VFR feature reaches the level of SI I will switch in a heartbeat with no remorse 😄

It depends what you compare it to. Its about one TV subscription HBO, Netflix or what have you per month. Its my nr 1 hobby and I make at least one VFR flight every day and with a great ATC that does not feel scripted and with plenty of commercial and AI traffic on all surrounding airport its worth every penny to me. I can absolutely see the point about the price though and especially if you dont fly all that much. I will keep my eye on BATC as well and follow the progress as I own it as well.

or just get Say Intensions ATC. Traffic at every airport and no requirement to file any flightplan. Its surprising the S.I guys can do traffic at all airports but not the BATC team. Downside of course is SI is subscription based which might not be suitable for everyone.

I am surprised that every time the question of ATC and AI comes up they seem so passive like there would be nothing more to improve and they keep bringing up very small fixes they have done or will do. Have they even seen S.I and BeyondATC and what can be done. Default ATC it terrible and in no way better than in FSX (actually worse) and they dont seem to cope with this fact at all or dont really care. To me ATC is one of few areas where time stands still, an area they seriously have not wanted to improve and I can not understand why.

Yes true but in that case the goal of the developer has to be to take advantage of the good bits of AI and regulate the bits that try to ”please” the user in an unrealistic fashion.

BATC inject GA traffic but only ones flying strictly IFR flight plans unlike S.I. My opinion is that these two option are miles apart and will remain at least until the second BATC VFR stage. I mean S.I even have an option to change from VFR to IFR mid flight and airpace penetration and so much more. Of course it comes at a price unfortunately, a monthly such 🙂 Only thing for me is that sometimes it feels like S.I is trying to please me too much. If for example for fun if I say that I want to exit a Control Zone via "Donald Duck" it gladly just say cleared to exit the control zone via "Donald Duck". So it feel a bit ureliable in that way.

It seem you are missing some of our best ATC addons then, SI and or BeyondATC. They add plenty of commercial and GA traffic, In fact I flew out of a Tampa Florida GA airport just yesterday and it was full of SI generated moving Cessnas, Pipers, Diamonds and what have you and I only had the Ga slider to 6 out of 11 I believe. Add to that you can setup even more parking spots and it will add more traffic, to an insane level if that is what ones wants. To me the time of static planes is gone and I will not spend a dime on one where its not optional

Chris. I feel the same about static GA as you do about static commercial. I guess it depends on in what area of the airport we usually frequent perhaps and what type of airports. If you fly mostly commercial jets you might not visit the GA apron all that often and it might not matter. I on the other hand spend all my time there as the Cows DA40/42 are my beasts of choise and I want my GA to be as realistic as possible.

You do know that you can use community created profiles for airports in SI. Often times someone has already created a profile for an airport known to have a lot of static airplanes. All you have to do is go in to Taxi Tuner 4 and activate that profile instead of the default, one click. One good example is the profile for Palomar from Dreamflight. With it activated static aircraft and SI can coexist. Also I dont understand your argument that "they are there forever" as that would be a good thing. Sometimes less is more. In fact this logic in my opinion actually the whole problem, they are there and they are phoney. But I wont continue this argument. As I wrote in my initial post your work you decide and I fully respect that. I can just disagree.

Vincent. If you absolutely must keep the static aircraft in your (otherwise very nice) airports you can always Taxi Tune them yourself to remove SI sports where your static aircraft are parked to avoid any conflict with SI. That is what I have done personally for your airports. static + SI however makes the airport look way overcrowded. Speaking of SI it now adds so much GA traffic so with it I can absolutely not see any need for static planes. With that said of course not everyone is a SI user

Drzewiecki is one of the developers who actually provide an option. I have all his Seattle addons. Good stuff