November 18, 200322 yr >The flightsim market is covered in 747's - some excellent>freeware aircraft (Project OpenSky etc) and a few nice>payware. The aircraft is also old and no-longer>"cutting-edge".>>I really cannot imagine myself sitting at home flying in>real-time from London to Los Angeles in a 744. The PMDG737>does not like FS2004 going at anything more than 1x (I found>this out to my cost over the North Sea last night..) so how>exactly are we supposed to fly the 744? Take a day off work?>Send the rest of the family to a hotel for the weekend?! It's>a long haul airliner for long haul flights - not for flying>circuits at EGLL.>>If it can't be an Airbus 380 then I'd vote for the 757 any day>but looks like the decision has already been made. I won't be>purchasing it - too many real-world things to do (drink, eat,>sleep, real flying etc)>>Regards>>Adam Moore>>Shoot, I fly realtime 10+hr flights a couple times a week. Some have time for it (look on Servinfo). And yes I have a fulltime job but with the type job I have, I get 15 days off every month. Eric
November 18, 200322 yr What happened tot he JetStream? I was looking forward ot that...or was that cancelled hmm?I have to say, I was quite amused with people said things like "xys is not upto PMDG Standards", no wonder PMDG just raised the standard!!! Deal with it...PMDG, Whatever you make..I'd be happy :D http://www.jet-precision.com/Uploads/MM-JPS.jpg
November 18, 200322 yr I must say i agree with Markus' post.I purchased the PSS 747 and 777 when they first came out and loved flying them both but I have matured more in FS and now prefer the realism offered by 767PIC and PMDG. I regret to say that I think PSS will release the 747 and 777 with same philosophy as their other releases, nice graphics but limited functionality.So I certainly would purchase a PMDG 747, even if it is an old aircraft.I would also be interested in a fully functional Airbus, and although I have never flown an MD of any description there are a lot of people out there who do like the MD's but how big is that market?At the end of the day I guess we have little influence on what PMDG develop. They know their abilities, availability of technical details they need to develop an aircraft and hopefully know their market.I just hope that more developers follow the trend set by the likes of PMDG, the teams that brought us the 767PIC and RfP742; I would be happy even if my bank balance wouldn't be :-lolLook forward to the 747 guys even if it is for FS10 ;-)Dave
November 19, 200322 yr Hi,I am one of those who will purchase the B744 the same day it will be released, no question about that.However, what the community really needs is more old analog systems. like DC8 and B707. Fortunately there will be a "top of the line" B707 released soon for another copany. But the DC8 Staffan
November 19, 200322 yr I have to say Im quite happy that PMDG are making the 747, I was worried that i would have to buy it from **you know who**, and put up with the same panel from FS2002, probley with all the same bugs brought over from the 2002 version (like their new releases) and then put up with their "nothing new will be added" statement every time some one points out a vital missing element.I sigh with pleasure now, 747-400 pleasures and reality coming to a Sim near you :)Go for it PMDGJason
November 19, 200322 yr A PMDG 744 should be quite a sight to behold.The list that PMDG released about improvements and fixes in SU2 for the 737 is quite a stark contrast from PSS' stale "nothing new will be added" statements. It really goes to show which developer is truly serious about their work. Although I have my peeves about the 737, I applaud PMDG's efforts to learn and improve upon their first MSFS project.I'll be a return customer for the PMDG 744-- I've been waiting a long time for this airplane to be done properly.Thomas
November 19, 200322 yr >The flightsim market is covered in 747's - some excellent>freeware aircraft (Project OpenSky etc) and a few nice>payware. The aircraft is also old and no-longer>"cutting-edge".>>I really cannot imagine myself sitting at home flying in>real-time from London to Los Angeles in a 744. The PMDG737>does not like FS2004 going at anything more than 1x (I found>this out to my cost over the North Sea last night..) so how>exactly are we supposed to fly the 744? Take a day off work?>Send the rest of the family to a hotel for the weekend?! It's>a long haul airliner for long haul flights - not for flying>circuits at EGLL.>>If it can't be an Airbus 380 then I'd vote for the 757 any day>but looks like the decision has already been made. I won't be>purchasing it - too many real-world things to do (drink, eat,>sleep, real flying etc)>>Regards>>Adam Moore>>Well you can do what I do - fire up a flight shortly before bed and let the A/P fly the old girl while you sleep in your un-characteristically large 'crew bed' :-lol. Then you wake up and land the beast and go on with your day. You can also use a nifty program called 'I Will Be Back' to have FS pause itself after flying so many NM's so you don't overshoot if you sleep in. ;) Howard H. "You must be the change you wish to see in the world" -Mahatma Gandhi
November 20, 200322 yr I'm sorry to hear the next project is a 744. I can't see spending that much time on long flights in any sim. I hardly ever fill the center tank on a 737. I also have no interest in another 747.I was really hoping for an MD-11, but even a 757 would have been nice. I love the 737NG and will obviously purchase the -800/900, but I can't imagine spending money on a 744.Disappointed,Chris - Chris Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | Intel Core i9 13900KF | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB | 64GB DDR5 SDRAM | Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling | 1TB & 2TB Samsung Gen 4 SSD | 1000 Watt Gold PSU | Windows 11 Pro | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Thrustmaster TCA Captain X Airbus | Asus ROG 38" 4k IPS Monitor (PG38UQ) Asus Maximus VII Hero motherboard | Intel i7 4790k CPU | MSI GTX 970 4 GB video card | Corsair DDR3 2133 32GB SDRAM | Corsair H50 water cooler | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (2) | EVGA 1000 watt PSU - Retired
November 20, 200322 yr I don't get it...people whine about their lack of interest in performing long flights and suggest that PMDG do the MD-11 instead. Don't these people find that they are contradicting themselves considering that the MD-11 flies medium to long flights as well?For people who would die to see the 757: Considering that 767PIC has already been announced, what is the point in PMDG doing the 757 when the 767 and the 757 have exactly the same panel??Lastly, why are people even complaining at all?? The 744 has been decided and it looks like PMDG has done a considerable amount of work on the 744 already. How is whining and being "disappointed" going to change that? Why not just respect PMDG's decision to produce whatever they think is the best. Personally, I'm fine by whatever PMDG, Dreamfleet, PIC, FSD wants to do, because I know whatever it is they make, it is going to be a positive contribution to this hobby.Thomas
November 20, 200322 yr Well said and I totally agree...I'm just happy that there is such a great amount of developers doing excellent work.
November 20, 200322 yr Well said Thomas. You can't please everyone. I'm sure there are those out there who are very much looking forward to a PMDG 747-400. Cheers,John TavendaleTextures by Tavers - https://www.facebook.com/texturesbytavers
November 20, 200322 yr I might be wrong but PMDG 747-400 is over one year project if not already under development ! I but your documentation on this lady some years ago and if you implement 75% of this manual then you'v got a buyer...Jean-Claude MeunierCYQB
November 20, 200322 yr Thomas, my post wasn't a whining post. You shouldn't infer about posts on the forum. Personally, I would rather see an MD-11 because it's different than another Boeing, and hasn't been done before. The 747 is really only a long range bird, however, the cargo versions of MD-11s don't necessarily go thousands of miles all the time. Both planes capabilities may be similar to you, but they differ in the real world. I was just hoping a great developer like PMDG would tackle something different, for the Boeing line is getting tired. I am entitled to my opinion, am I not?Bottom line, a lot of people, including myself will probably purchase the 747 if it ends up as good as the 737NG will when it's done. I was just wanting some change for once.Chris - Chris Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | Intel Core i9 13900KF | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB | 64GB DDR5 SDRAM | Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling | 1TB & 2TB Samsung Gen 4 SSD | 1000 Watt Gold PSU | Windows 11 Pro | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Thrustmaster TCA Captain X Airbus | Asus ROG 38" 4k IPS Monitor (PG38UQ) Asus Maximus VII Hero motherboard | Intel i7 4790k CPU | MSI GTX 970 4 GB video card | Corsair DDR3 2133 32GB SDRAM | Corsair H50 water cooler | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (2) | EVGA 1000 watt PSU - Retired
November 20, 200322 yr PMDG decided to do a 747. Some people are happy and some like me are disappointed. I dont see why its a problem to you if I state my disappointment on the forums, even though I know that they've already made up thier minds.Some are happy, some are not....both have an oppertunity to air their views. This is what the forums are for....all ranges of opinions. If you don't like it then maybe the PMDG forum is not the place for you. May I suggest you try Happy Happy land over at the PSS forums.
November 20, 200322 yr The times they are a-changing. If I go through this thread, now planes are checked with their real world sales numbers to predict the FS sales expectation. And developers even seem to prefer sharing the big 737 or 747 sales cake than creating a plane that has not yet been done.No room for planes with individual fan potential or enthusiasm like the MD-11. Bit sad, but we have to take it as it is.Mike
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