October 11, 200817 yr Good day all. This might seem like a simple question to answer, but I just want to be 100% sure. I just completed KLAX-EDDF with the QOS and the METAR in Frankfurt was: 110802Z VRB02 0100 ..... so basically, the visibility was terrible! Only 100 meters. Accordingly I did a full autoland and saw the runway lights only on touchdown. (By the way, it has been quite a while since I have done such a landing. Holy crap that was AWESOME!) Anyway, will the MD-11 have similar capabilities (to do a full autoland -- flare and rollout -- in such miserable weather)? Thanks for all the help!- Jake
October 11, 200817 yr MD11 certfied to CATIIIb at least, I'm not sure about CATIIIc.CATIIIb means no DH and requirement of 75 meters RVR. In all CATIII autolands flare and rollout guidance is a requirement, so MD11 is of course capable of doing these.//Olli
October 11, 200817 yr Jake, these should answer your question. :) I hope so anyways. Sorry for the cropped shots. I tried to shrink them to avsim rules, and you could hardly see the FMA, so I decided to crop them instead. This was extremely quick as I'm getting ready to go to bed, so if you see something that's not set right, you know why.EDIT: Almost forgot. Notice the changes on the FMA as she goes through various parts of the landing. :)http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193160.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193161.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/193162.jpg
October 11, 200817 yr Hi Jake,This is something I have been waiting for too, it is an important aspect of any FS add-on. I asked the same question in the thread "Questions, fire away" and a beta tester did reply he was going to post a few shots but still nothing. I suppose he is very busy. I'm sure the MD-11 performs it beautifully, I hope we get some screen shots soon.EDIT: I don't believe this, those shots were posted before I did:-lol happy landings Onur K. Visit my FS blog: Clear Right...
October 11, 200817 yr >Onur, see, we're even psychic. :-lol:-xxrotflmaoMan, what a coincidence. You really surprised me though, thanks for posting :-beerchug Onur K. Visit my FS blog: Clear Right...
October 11, 200817 yr I can see that "RETARD" appears in the thrust section (left)of the FMA.I presume that means that idle thrust is applied and the throttles are brought to a full-back position. But, here comes the question, has the MD-11 a Retard! Retard! callout like Airbuses have? signed: José Luis
October 11, 200817 yr >I can see that "RETARD" appears in the thrust section>(left)of the FMA.>>I presume that means that idle thrust is applied and the>throttles are brought to a full-back position. >>But, here comes the question, has the MD-11 a Retard! Retard!>callout like Airbuses have?MD11 doesn't have the retard callout, however, as illustrated ATS has a RETARD mode which pulls back throttles to idle during flare. Even when doing normal manual landing if ATS is engaged.//Olli
October 11, 200817 yr Jose Luis,I was curious about that too seeing the thrust mode, I just watched a couple of cockpit videos on FL350, there doesn't seem to be any "Retard Retard" callout. Onur K. Visit my FS blog: Clear Right...
October 11, 200817 yr Commercial Member Hi,There isn't a "Retard" call on the MD-anything.Best regards,Robin.
October 11, 200817 yr In a CATIII landing, can the MD-11's computers initiate reverse thrust automatically after touchdown? Or do you still need to do this yourself?Also, in the DC-10 I fly, we turn off thrust reversers at about 60-65 kts. In a CATIII autoland in the MD-11, does it also deactivate the thrust reversers at some point in the rollout?RhettFS box: E8500 (@ 3.80 ghz), AC Freezer 7 Pro, ASUS P5E3 Premium, BFG 8800GTX 756 (nVidia 169 WHQL), 4gb DDR3 1600 Patriot Cas7 7-7-7-20 (2T), PC Power 750, WD 150gb 10000rpm Raptor, Seagate 500gb, Silverstone TJ09 case, Vista Ultimate 64ASX Client: AMD 3700+ (@ 2.6 ghz), 7800GT Rhett 7800X3D ♣ 96 GB G.Skill Flare ♣ Gigabyte 4090 ♣ Crucial P5 Plus 2TB
October 11, 200817 yr >In a CATIII landing, can the MD-11's computers initiate>reverse thrust automatically after touchdown? Or do you still>need to do this yourself?>>Also, in the DC-10 I fly, we turn off thrust reversers at>about 60-65 kts. In a CATIII autoland in the MD-11, does it>also deactivate the thrust reversers at some point in the>rollout?>>RhettReverse thrust must be always operated manually.//Olli
October 12, 200817 yr Commercial Member Maybe you guys will be interested in knowing that the MD-11 is certified to do full autoland with one engine out too. The AP even handles one engine out go-arounds if a wing engine is INOP.Markus Markus Burkhard
October 12, 200817 yr Alternatively, takeoff with one engine inoperative is also permitted to ferry the aircraft to a maintenance facility to necessitate repairs. Allan Burek
October 13, 200817 yr So concluding these posts, we are talking about CATIIIa and not CATIIIb?So flare, but no roll-out?I would be surprised if the MD-11 had CATIIIb to be honest...Best Regards,Bert.
Create an account or sign in to comment