July 24, 200916 yr Hi Folks,Was flying into LOWI (Innsbruck) and noticed that it has no ILS approaches only LLZ. So How do I do the approach as I;m not sure?One soloution I thought was descend to the last fix for approach then do a V/S? Could somebody give me some helpful tips or even explain what I would do.Many ThanksJason Jason Thompson
July 24, 200916 yr Commercial Member Been a while since I flew into there, hope your not trying it in anything bigger then a 767 :)Google is your friend - http://ivao.xenoflex.de/Download/Charts/LOWI.pdfLooks like it's LOC DME however I'm sure I flew an ILS Approach but maybe it's just FS sticking CATIIIB approaches everywhere.Rob Rob Prest
July 24, 200916 yr It's an offset ils approach so best to use a rnav approach then visual from the minimum height (2600?) - use 50' of flap there too as it's pretty steep on the approach and nearly max braking as well.If it's the Aerosoft one then there are guide lights to the runway as well if a bit dark. 5Nm minumum visability as well.Practice as it's quite a bit harder then KJFK 22? (R/L?) or TNCM.John Ellison
July 24, 200916 yr Hi,It's a circling approach with 2 fixes. So regardless which runway you use you need the approach plates and altitude numbers, altitudes are critical as you are turning in the valley and have little room for error. It's a tricky approach in a 727 or 37. Try Jepperson for the plates.Rob
July 25, 200916 yr Check out the website of VACC Austria! :( >>HERE<< is the direct link to all of the LOWI-relating charts! Greetings from nearby EDDM! Thomas ARMER SYSTEM: Win7-64 Pro I CoolerMaster HAF-932 I Intel E 8600 @4,2 GHz I Gainward GTX285 2048 MB I Asus Rampage Extreme I 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 I HDDs: 1x 512 GB SSD Samsung 850 Pro, 2x 160 GB SATA 7200rpm I 2x Samsung 2443BW 24" 16:10 FLIGHTSIM: FS 2004 9.1
July 26, 200916 yr oh and if you overshoot there is a cemetery at the end of one of the runways :( Scott
July 26, 200916 yr oh and if you overshoot there is a cemetery at the end of one of the runways :(That's convenient!Paul
July 27, 200916 yr oh and if you overshoot there is a cemetery at the end of one of the runways :(That would be even funnier if it were true. ;)Karsten
July 27, 200916 yr Hi,It's a circling approach with 2 fixes. So regardless which runway you use you need the approach plates and altitude numbers, altitudes are critical as you are turning in the valley and have little room for error. It's a tricky approach in a 727 or 37. Try Jepperson for the plates.RobHere's some approach plates (rename to pdf after downloading.)There's 3 ways into Innsbruck if you can't stay visual for the approach in Innsbruck- the RNAV way - this is probably the most straightforward way but in real life the aircraft needs to be RNP certified. The FS airplane will track the lateral path, but you'll have to control the vertical path. You can land straight into 26 with this one.- localizer from the east - the plate advertises a glideslope - so you can use the normal procedures for an ILS, but you'll have to take over at some point to adjust the flight path to land - you can either land straight in for 26 or use the visual pattern to land on 8- localizer from the west - the scenery addon in the AVSIM library adds the localizer (for FS9 - I don't have FS X so I don't know what FS X has in way of navaids) but also adds a glideslope - the real world version doesn't have a glideslope. This one has you overfly the airport, once you get into VMC at minimums, you have to do a 180 degree turn to look for the airport - once you get sight of the airport you can either land straight in to 26 or do the visual pattern to land on 8. If you don't have visual, keep the turn going around (basically do a 360) and center up the localizer again and track it outbound for the missed approach.It was really neat flying an FAA certified Level D ERJ-145 simulator into Innsbruck... in the FS world I used these charts with PMDG 737 and 1900D, but I haven't tried the 747 or MD-11.Steve W.VFR charts for Innsbruck (again rename to .pdf after downloading)Steve W.
July 28, 200916 yr Author Here's some approach plates (rename to pdf after downloading.)There's 3 ways into Innsbruck if you can't stay visual for the approach in Innsbruck- the RNAV way - this is probably the most straightforward way but in real life the aircraft needs to be RNP certified. The FS airplane will track the lateral path, but you'll have to control the vertical path. You can land straight into 26 with this one.- localizer from the east - the plate advertises a glideslope - so you can use the normal procedures for an ILS, but you'll have to take over at some point to adjust the flight path to land - you can either land straight in for 26 or use the visual pattern to land on 8- localizer from the west - the scenery addon in the AVSIM library adds the localizer (for FS9 - I don't have FS X so I don't know what FS X has in way of navaids) but also adds a glideslope - the real world version doesn't have a glideslope. This one has you overfly the airport, once you get into VMC at minimums, you have to do a 180 degree turn to look for the airport - once you get sight of the airport you can either land straight in to 26 or do the visual pattern to land on 8. If you don't have visual, keep the turn going around (basically do a 360) and center up the localizer again and track it outbound for the missed approach.It was really neat flying an FAA certified Level D ERJ-145 simulator into Innsbruck... in the FS world I used these charts with PMDG 737 and 1900D, but I haven't tried the 747 or MD-11.Steve W.VFR charts for Innsbruck (again rename to .pdf after downloading)Steve W.Hi folks,Thanks for the replies, but I already have the charts I just wanted to know how you would do the approach into the airport?RgdsJason Jason Thompson
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