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hi All,for those who are interested and wanna have a look, (hope i don't get slammed for this) www.flightsim.com now has a dedicated FSCOF forum with some screen shots posted by one of the beta testers. he's running a P4 3ghz with a Radeon 9800(128mb version). "Warning"...if you look at ALL of the screen shots and own a p4 3gig machine you may be a little dissapointed as i was when you see the fps in a few of the shots. happy flyin, fm

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Hey Mike,The interesting thing is I've seen close to a dozen posts on the Flightsim.com FS Forum and their Screeshot Forum refering people to Avsim for downloads and to view screen shots. None of those posts were removed. Like I said - interesting - that's it, that's all.Mikehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/madamo/boeingsig.jpg

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Those shots were taken by Nels, who runs flightsim.com - I believe the first series of shots (like the ones with the MAAM B-25 that show only 2-3 FPS were done on his OLD PC (800Mhz) and not on the new one he just got (the 3Ghz R9800). I'm gonna buy a new system as soon as FS2004 has a confirmed release date and I'm gonna be more than happy with a 24FPS lock with the kind of visuals he was getting on those KBOS departure shots.Ryan

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Hey FM!!Thanks for the link!Warning"...if you look at ALL of the screen shots and own a p4 3gig machine you may be a little dissapointed as i was when you see the fps in a few of the shots.Just to clear up a little confusion on those screen shots. The set of screen shots of MAMM's Briefing Time was taken on Nel's old system which was a P3 800Mhz. The newer set of pictures in the FS2004 - Dusk Departure thread was taken on Nel's new system. The FPS counter on the Mamm post shows the FPS locked at 15 whereas the FS2004 - Dusk Departure post has the FPS locked at 25 and by the looks of it, the FPS stay very close to the 25 limit.Take Care!!Mikehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/madamo/boeingsig.jpg

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I think Nels has one of the "press copies", not the beta.

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We need to keep in mind that everyone's mileage as regards frame rates will vary. I believe this will be even more so the case with FS2004 than it was in FS2002. As has been pointed out numerous times previously, there are quite a few features that can be turned down or off with minimal impact upon both image quality and the immersion factor. Given that FS2004 considerably expands on both functionality and eye candy over FS2002, I firmly believe that feature for feature FS2004 will run at least as well as FS2002 does. I can think of quite a few features in FS2004 that would cripple my machine's performance. I'll simply turn them off for the time being.

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If there's a FSCOF Forum over there they've hidden it really, really well. Where did you find it?Steve

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What FSCOF forum, i sure cant see it, maybe i need new glasses :)OHN

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Nels always creates a separate forum for each new sim (to each his own), and yes, he does have a press copy and can legally post screen shots.As to the new forum, it is the 3rd one down on the list, and yes, the new sim from FS is named Flight Simulator 2004 (FS2004 for short), in addition to "ACOF". In fact, if you look at the photo of the box on the main page of AVSIM (right side, near the top), you will see the text "Flight Simulator 2004" is very large and prominent, while the text for "ACOF" is underneath it, smaller and not quite as visible. Looks like it's very much "FS2004" to the folks at MS also.Obviously the new forum is named "FS2004". :-)http://www.flightsimnetwork.com/cgi/dcforum/dcboard.cgiRegards,Lou

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Oh yes now i see it, offcourse i searched for the FS2004 forum at the link the author of this thread provided, and didnt find anyting, well maybe its just me that doesnt understand the structure of that site.OHN

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Here's our policy (paraphrased)... if a site owner or member of the staff of another site come to AVSIM to use the popularity of our forums to attract (it is universally known as "poaching") users from here, then we remove the message. That is a strict violation of our stated policies.If, on the other hand, a normal user suggests someone go to xyz.com to have a look at something, we have no problem with that as that is the purpose of our forums - sharing within our hobby. EDIT: there are "normal" users who are used as "shills" to overcome this policy of ours. We are aware of that and keep an eye out for that too. There are grey areas, to be sure, and Matt may have hit upon one with his editing of that particular message. Subsequent events after that however, resulted in that particular individual being shown the door.Here's the point; we work hard to make our forums the best and most comprehensive in flight simming. Why should we allow other site owners and their staff to take advantage of that popularity? Anyone who has been online for any length of time can tell you that poaching is considered a gross violation of good manners just about everywhere. You sure as heck won't see AVSIM staff going to other sites to attract users there to here. That's against our policies too.

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For me the third forum down is FLY!And I've refreshed the page too!!.pAnmAn

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I'm still blind. There is a FS2004 Forum at flightsimnetwork.com but certainly not at flightsim.com. Which is it???? At FlightSim.com the 3rd forum down is Fly.

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got me there Ken, I must say.very surprising indeed.(confusing but surprising):-)

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The (www.flightsimnetwork.com/cgi/dcforum/dcboard.cgi) address is the newer style forums at FlightSim.com, FS2002, FS2004, etc.Kurt M

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hi again All,not trying to start any trouble here. just thought Everyone would like to see some new FS2004 screenies and fps numbers on a given system. sorry about the mix up on the FS2004/COF forum name-it is FS2004 forum. glad to hear the single digit fps screenies were taken on a previous system (thanks Mike). don't know if anyone read any of the posts but Nel's stated in one of his posts that he had "most not all sliders" maxxed in FS2004 on the new system. (wonder which sliders he didn't have maxxed)? anyway, looking forward to FS2004 with the rest of you guys. happy flyin, fm

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