Appearently I'm blind...I'm trying to find the fuel charts for the MD-11 somewhere in the HUGE doc for the a/c...could someone plz point me in the right direction?

Not there, Richard. Boeing didn't allow pmdg to include a ton of tech data. I use the FMS, it is really quite good at forecasting if you have good wind data.

Yes, I heard that. To me it sounds strange why Boeing wouldn't let PMDG publish this kind of info considering everything else published but doesn't matter...found what I was looking for elsewhere and once I get to learn the MD-11 a bit better I'm sure using the built-in functionality for fuel planning in the FMC also is a good option.Thanks anyway for your input!

Performance data are often the reason for an aircraft's success or failure... and I can fully understand not wanting to have the data in the open domain. As Dan said, the FMS gives an accurate picture as long as you feed it with weather data... Active Sky weather reports for winds aloft at your flight waypoints are pretty good, and I have always landing with the predicted fuel give or take a little... The interaction with vroute and the MD-11 is also accurate enough, as is TOPCAT...Andrew

topcatsim.comgood stuff.

Guess you're right performance data can be sensitive info, I was just a bit surprised since that kind of info usually comes with the a/c.Just had a quick look at TopCat and seems to be a great tool!

If you have a few of the aircraft supported, it can be a good investment...Andrew

Topcat is an ace program. However I'm sure it only supports the ge engine variant of the md-11. Just wandering how people got round this with the pw engine variant? I haven't really flown with the pw's since buying topcat and also downloading the ge flight profile for fsbuild

I think for our purposes the differences are not so great as to have that much of an effect...The excel chart on the avsim forum for FLEX calculation is also only for one type officially, but I have used the data for both engine types, and haven't run out of pavement so far... :(Andrew

I would like to suggest Vroute, but you will need premium membership to get fuel calculations for PMDG MD11. There are several other aircraft you can use along with routes to fly and who is on vatsim and so forth. . .

FOC Danur 2003 is doing it very well too ....

FOC Danur 2003 is doing it very well too ....

I highly recommend FOC. Looks like an antic but it does a great job at planning, dispatching and weather integration. Fuel flow calculations are very accurate. Steep learning curve however. Don't bother subscribing to airac updates they are too expensive.If you want to go the cheap way. Get the fuel flows for climb, cruise and descent on the net. Get a few simple math formulas also on the net. Buy yourself a couple of pens and a ram of paper and do the fuel calculation by yourself. After a couple of tries you will get it right and achieve a high precision. with the satisfaction of having achieved a professional dispatcher exercise. There is also a profesional dispatcher for all PMDG products which was created by Karl-Heinz Wichmann. It is an excel based semi automated workbook which gives you fuel consumption for the MD11, B747 and B737 with an accuracy of +/- 0.2% on all routes exceeding 250nm. Shorter routes can show inacurracy of up to 1.2%. If you need Karl-Heinz's email let me know by pm and I will contact him.Cheers

I highly recommend FOC. Looks like an antic but it does a great job at planning, dispatching and weather integration. Fuel flow calculations are very accurate. Steep learning curve however. Don't bother subscribing to airac updates they are too expensive.If you want to go the cheap way. Get the fuel flows for climb, cruise and descent on the net. Get a few simple math formulas also on the net. Buy yourself a couple of pens and a ram of paper and do the fuel calculation by yourself. After a couple of tries you will get it right and achieve a high precision. with the satisfaction of having achieved a professional dispatcher exercise. There is also a profesional dispatcher for all PMDG products which was created by Karl-Heinz Wichmann. It is an excel based semi automated workbook which gives you fuel consumption for the MD11, B747 and B737 with an accuracy of +/- 0.2% on all routes exceeding 250nm. Shorter routes can show inacurracy of up to 1.2%. If you need Karl-Heinz's email let me know by pm and I will contact him.Cheers

Michel,if FOC is fed with good datas the results is perfect ... for the MD11 it s the datas from SWR directly so they re good and the MD11 GE i made cant tell where they come from but they re true too ...it s exactly the same we re doing for any profiles only real datas .. the 777s will be on the same bandwagon only true datas ...the challenge is not FOC but aircraft creators to meet real datas ..see youPhil