March 29, 201016 yr I have seen PMDG's work with the MD-11. Personally, I think they should take on the popular 717 model from Boeing as well. It represents that latest in short-haul technology (interestingly, since it is based on a 40-year-old design) and the latest in the DC-9 lineage. What does everybody else think?Obviously, this would have to happen after PMDG's current projects (737, 777, Dash-8), unless they shelved it do to a ridiculous turnout on this poll. BTW-this won't happen! Just checking to see how others feel about this, especially since the only decent 717 out there comes for Vans Aircraft Company. This company is a sister company to Sky Simulations; we all that PMDG's MD-11 trumps the Sky Sim version (which is pretty decent too) as well. If this is any indication of what PMDG could do with the 717, I say yes.Brennan
March 29, 201016 yr Looks to be about 50/50 right now...interesting.The plane was discontinued in REAL LIFE as a new plane.
March 29, 201016 yr I love the 717, my favourite short haul aircraft!! Defentily id love to see PMDG do this.
March 29, 201016 yr Meh, I just feel that it'll be a boring plane because, well, there's not much to like about it IMO. I feel the 727 or DC-10 would be much more interesting, and I'm sure many more people would buy those than the 717.Karan
March 29, 201016 yr I feel the 727 or DC-10 would be much more interesting, and I'm sure many more people would buy those than the 717.KaranI don't think so. It's true that DC-10s and 727s are great planes to be put in an Honour Place in the History of Aviation. I once flew onboard an Iberia DC-10 in 1976 (LHR-MAD), and many times on 727s (Iberia domestic flights) in the '80s.But my opinion is that there is a majority of simmers (me among them) looking for planes that are still in active service. Yes, not many 717s in service today...but still in service, and it would be a more versatile plane than the MD-11 for short hops between airports with short runways.Moreover, DC-10s and 727s were not as automated as today's planes and were certified for a 3-pilots crew. It would be very difficult to fly them in a proper or realistic way by a single armchair pilot. signed: José Luis
March 29, 201016 yr I don't think so. It's true that DC-10s and 727s are great planes to be put in an Honour Place in the History of Aviation. I once flew onboard an Iberia DC-10 in 1976 (LHR-MAD), and many times on 727s (Iberia domestic flights) in the '80s.But my opinion is that there is a majority of simmers (me among them) looking for planes that are still in active service. Yes, not many 717s in service today...but still in service, and it would be a more versatile plane than the MD-11 for short hops between airports with short runways.Moreover, DC-10s and 727s were not as automated as today's planes and were certified for a 3-pilots crew. It would be very difficult to fly them in a proper or realistic way by a single armchair pilot.That's true but it'd be nice to see a decent DC-10 around, and I think it would be great fun for one armchair pilot to simulate all the PF, FO and FE. The Concorde is great fun to fly because it's challenging and keeps you on your toes because there's so much to do!I guess the 717 is nice but I dunno, I'd take an Airbus or Douglas plane over it any day
March 29, 201016 yr I guess the 717 is nice but I dunno, I'd take an Airbus or Douglas plane over it any dayHaha... The 717 IS a Douglas airplane. Unless the DC-9 doesn't count anymore?
March 29, 201016 yr Haha... The 717 IS a Douglas airplane. Unless the DC-9 doesn't count anymore?Good point ;)...maybe the older douglas planes? And the MD-11 :). Sorry for my bit of stupidity.Karan
March 29, 201016 yr The plane was discontinued in REAL LIFE as a new plane.What's your point? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
March 29, 201016 yr I'm in for a yes vote--but perhaps for misinformed reasons. I'm really not terribly in love with the 717. I don't see any particular role the 717 serves that within MSFS can't easily be replaced by a 737 or a good RJ. So the truth is that I'd love a good RJ. However, my understanding is that the 717 shares a very large amount in common avioncis wise with the MD-11. So my thoughts are that it would be relatively easy for PMDG to transfer those system over to a 717 visual model and then update performance and the like as appropriate. If it's pretty easy, then sure, I'd take a decent short range aircraft. However, I'm not really all that in love with the idea if it's going to take a lot of work for them.Of course, I hate the things in real life. I've never had less leg room and even walking off a 1.5 hour flight was like a dream come true after being so scrunched up in those seats. Eric Szczesniak
March 29, 201016 yr Well, you got the SkySim DC-9, the Super Pro 80, the Mad Dog, and SkySim apparently doing an MD as a stablemate for their DC-9, so it's a pretty crowded market for DC-9 derivatives. And for a plane that is basically a souped up version of that family, I suspect that would not bode well for sales of another one. It would be nice to see one for FSX, but I don't think it would be the smartest move for PMDG to make it, since there are other aircraft that would likely be a better sales prospect in view of the propensity of similar types you can already get.And if they went for an older aircraft that is no longer made, they'd be better off doing something like a realistic L-1011 or a 200 series Boeing such as the 747 or 737.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 29, 201016 yr IMHO, PMDG has enough to concentrate on with the 737, 777 and Dash 8 all having been announced. Besides the JS41, which I believe was done as a personal project dedicated to ACA, as well as a testbed for the new technologies to be incorporated in future aircraft, PMDG have wisely created only aircraft in high demand.As Robert stated in his post about PMDG's stance on FS9 development, PMDG is a company and at the end of the day they need to make a return on the money and time they have invested in developing each aircraft. With the 717 not a particularly popular aicraft, it would seem silly to spend enormous amounts of time on developing one, where they aren't garunteed a return like they would have with the long awaited 737, 777 and Dash 8.Further analysis reveals that these aircraft are of very high demand, but there are almost no active developers of PMDG's level working on them. Business decisions again, you see.So to conclude, it would be a much wiser decision to perhaps create am Embrear E-Jet aircraft, the 717's replacement in many cases.Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's just how it appears to be from my point of view. Andrew McCluskey
March 29, 201016 yr So to conclude, it would be a much wiser decision to perhaps create am Embrear E-Jet aircraft, the 717's replacement in many cases.FeelThere's E-Jets are almost up to the level of PMDG (Only missing failures), and it has been tossed around that they will make a 717. I vote no, because it is a niche aircraft, and another developer has tossed the idea around. I would rather see PMDG devote their resources somewhere else, like on the 737 2.0 or the dash-8. Joe Sherrill
March 29, 201016 yr FeelThere's E-Jets are almost up to the level of PMDG (Only missing failures), and it has been tossed around that they will make a 717. I vote no, because it is a niche aircraft, and another developer has tossed the idea around. I would rather see PMDG devote their resources somewhere else, like on the 737 2.0 or the dash-8.My appologies, I failed to check for any E-Jet models. :( Andrew McCluskey
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