kantk2008

It has a full 3D cockpit and incomplete 2D cockpit. The Center pedestal, for whatever crazy reason, is not modeled in 2D, so you'll have to use a key shortcut or go to the 3D cockpit to access the trim and fuel flow switches.

If you have an Xperia X10 (which I doubt anybody has) like me, you would really know the difference between the FPS capped 30FPS the screen goes at and the 60FPS uncapped FPS that you can hack in. Same with shooting games. HUGE difference between 30FPS and 60FPS. For me, the sweet spot for performance vs quality is 30-35FPS. Anything under 22FPS is too poor.

actually 2011 hasn't been too bad. 2009 and especially 2010 were terrible. Also, the amount of planes in the air has increased so much in the past decade that just by law of averages there will be more crashes every year :\

I don't know if it's just me but I find this aircraft to be the hardest to land smoothly out of all my FS addons (Even harder than the MD11X and 744X) It just seems to drop out of the sky on approach, and then when I flare, it's really sensitive and if I don't get it right I float or even climb. If I don't flare enough, I drop on the runway and give the tires a huge beating. There seems to be a really small margin of error during landing. Are there any tips from people on how to manage landing this bird? I'm still trying to figure it out. My usual loadout is 40 Flaps and VREF+5 with about 10% fuel remaining...I still have problems landing sometimes! Cheers Karan.

Am I happy with the bird? Yes. Can there be improvements? Yes. I'm not going to turn a blind eye to the problems and I'm going to express my views. I am not going to bow down to the all mighty PMDG. If there are things I don't like about the aircraft, I will say it. IRDC what YOU'RE saying. If you don't like what my OP is about, ignore it and let the thread die instead of bumping it up then. Get a new computer? So that's the ultimate answer to almost every PMDG problem huh? NGX Freezing? Get a new computer. Don't like the incomplete 2D Panel? Make your own plane. Don't like the 3D Panel performance? Get a new computer. Great suggestions. Karan.

umm, yes it can get more complete...if it was as complete as it could be it would have a 2D Center pedestal, and circuit breakers. And telling someone to make them themselves is such an immature thing to say...just what a teenager would say in fact. ;) I would like to hear about the workarounds as well. The simple fact is that PMDG didn't do something that would have literally taken MAX an hour or two to do. Out of the 3-4 year dev period, 1-2 hours is nothing. And having to go to the 3d panel and endure 25-30 seconds of pain just to flip two switches shouldn't happen. Karan.

Nope, I will not pay for a new rig for this, especially on something that should have been there from the beginning

Yes, there is a center pedestal view, but that's not the point, the point is that if you do that you have to go into the 3d panel to do that, and it doesn't matter where you position the camera, the computer is going to render the WHOLE 3D cockpit, and that causes freezes and really poor FPS, and once even a CTD. It's just really annoying that I have to keep on encountering that, and it's a jolt back to the fact that this is a sim. The immersion goes because of that 5-7 second loading time it takes for the VC. A 2D panel would fix that. What a pathetic post by a pathetic person. (Rightly) Criticizing PMDG makes these ###### come out and show their true colors, eh? Well get over it, I think that PMDG went wrong with this one, and a 2D panel for at least the fuel levers (ok, fine, no throttle quadrant) would be fine. Another useless post. My computers meet the requirements. It's a fact that even higher end machines struggle with the NGX sometimes. Uhh yeah, so? I have NEVER seen a FS company state that there is 'full 2d panel'. When someone says a 2D panel is included (And yes, PMDG has said that), it is assumed that the WHOLE 2D panel is covered UNLESS SAID OTHERWISE. There are exceptions, like the Aerosoft Airbus X, but IIRC they actually mention that there's no real 2D panel. The fact is that there should be at the very least a 2d panel for the fuel levers. Karan.

Why? It still boggles my mind. Did they become lazy? I am 100% sure it wouldn't have been that hard. They made EVERYTHING else of the 2d panel, but this? For someone like me with an average PC, the NGX is already such a FPS sucker. The 2D panel gets great FPS. But then, on engine start, I don't have a choice and have to go to the VC. What happens? 10 Second freezes. 10FPS. Lag. More freeze. Why? What's up with the hate towards 2D users? I am trying to find a viable reason why PMDG wouldn't do something as simple as hell, just modeling the 2D Engine fuel switches, that's all I need! Instead, everytime I fly this bird I have no choice but to go twice to the 3D cockpit to turn on and off the engines, and really detract from the user experience. For such a hyped product as being 'the most complete and best simulation ever', the NGX sure has its shortcomings. Hopefully PMDG can add this 'feature', I'm sure it won't be terribly hard and it would pay dividends to 2D users. Karan.

The tail is usually the easiest way to distinguish airlines, and airlines will do anything for publicity, so I think it's used very liberally :) Also, the tail lights, I would think, won't be using that much power at all...they're just regular spotlights....compared to the engines, APU, aircon, systems etc the cost of using the logo lights would be negligible. Karan.

Now that the NGX is out, the T7 is the next and biggest interest in me. Ughh, what I would do to fly a PMDG Singapore Airlines 777 from WSSS to EHAM in the 777er, I'd jizz. karan

What?. Of course I fly the plane and enjoy the realism. But, I'm not exactly bounded to the cockpit right? Sometimes I like seeing the wings bounce and flex during takeoff, and for someone who has never been in a cockpit, that is the only way I can relate this to real-life flying. .Sometimes I like doing the same during landing and seeing the flaps extend and wings bounce. I can have it the best of both worlds, I don't always have to be in the cockpit.

Nope, I am talking about the actual engine sounds, not the ambient cockpit sounds. I doubt that the spool up sound of the 737 will suddenly change from Row 1 to the cockpit, the basic sound will be the same, right? I am not talking about the cockpit sounds, I am talking about the cabin area sounds.

You can't just shrug off something by saying 'well that's not what this things meant for'. This is supposed to be the best, most realistic, most in-depth aircraft ever. Simulation is not the only thing that reflects this. Sound does it too, as an immersion factor, if it's wrong, then that's a problem. My opinion can be wrong, but IMO I will still say the sounds are a bit iffy, especially the spoolup sound. That is my opinion. But it's quick ridiculous to say 'this is a simulation so sound can be wrong', when sound is a huge factor in simulation itself. This is regardless of whether I am wrong or not.

Passenger experience? Yes. Ridiculous? What? No. I'm entitled to my opinion, and IMO there is something not right about the NGX interior sounds. What would be ridiculous is if someone made my claim without actually sitting in a real 737. Did I do that? No. YES. At the back of any jetplane really, as the plane spools up, you hear the whine and then around the 50-60% N1, a really loud rumbling sound instead of the engine whine. That is not there in the NGX. Karan

Same things happened once in DEFAULT VIDP (Delhi) No special scenery, nothing, just a normal ILS approach, right on glideslope and about 1000ft AGL, and I get the 'pull up' and the terrain warnings.

No, not in the flight deck, just the cabin, twice in front of the engine, twice next to it and twice behind it, quite near to the PMDG predefined views.

Like, they don't sound realistic at all from the interior. I've been on 6 737-800 flights in the past month, and have sit in various areas of the plane, and it just doesn't sound like the NGX. The biggest concern I have is that the 'trent 800' spoolup whine present in the NGX really isn't there in the real aircraft. It's more of a buzzing sound I have heard in all real life videos and my own plentiful experiences, I have never heard this trent 700/800 whine during spoolup from around 25% N1 to 45% N1 on the 737. It's there on the NGX, and doesn't sound...right. Another thing I saw is that the when in the aft wing view, the sounds aren't realistic at all. In the real thing, when the engines are at full power, you can't really hear the engines, it's more of a very loud rumbling noise. In this, there is no rumbling, but you can hear the engines perfectly. It doesn't seem right IMO. In the 747-400X, the engine noises changed correctly depending on the part of the cabin you are in, and the rumbling was present in the aft area of the plane...that's not there in the NGX. Just two points I thought of, for me the plane is great but the sounds...I don't know, for me they are not very great. All my opinion of course. Karan

Meh, not really, I can find other stuff to use the 100 bucks on...I don't mind not having uber intense realism and 1000 features I'll probably never use or find, and I don't want to risk it causing a slowdown on my PC, that's 100 bucks to waste. Money's not a problem, but I don't want to squander it...no need to call people idiots for that ;) Great job to PMDG, they made an amazing addon, but...idk, I'm weighing my options between realism vs money vs performance.

So guys, yes or no does the MD-11 have better FPS than the NGX? None of the 'it's worth the drop in frames because of the quality stuff', just a simple question:does it give you better frames than the MD-11, or worse? Thanks for any replies. edit:it seems it has worse than the MD-11 by others opinion, so much for it having better frames than the MD-11 as it was hyped as having..I was hoping to buy it but I really don't want to take the risk, the MD-11 barely gives me borderline good performance, I dunno :\. I'll decide in the next few days..... Karan

I didn't realize questioning PMDG automatically becomes a post aimed at starting a flame war...sorry if I'm not dazzled by their 'perfection'.

lol...someone telling me to get a life, looking at the comments here at the release problems and delay, that's a bit ironic ^^ My post wasn't to start a flame war, I just wanted clarification over what that statement meant because I thought it was arbitary. I got my clarification, I didn't know that most hacks occur from China. It would be nice if that could be added but who am I to say? I deleted my post as well so I don't get more posts like yours.. I know it's tough to swallow, but people can be wrong and misenterpret things, which I admit happened to me. Is that a problem? lol

No one? Maybe my thread was in bad taste, but you can't seriously think iFly started this? What motive would they have for this? haha...both of the planes are in different leagues, and both are professional! Get my head out of sand? First get your head straightened out...it's outright stupid and comical if you think iFly had anything to do with this.

nevermind, don't want to start a flamewar and get destroyed by ######...

What? There are so many great addons out there other than the NGX. The leonardo maddog, which is still unmatched in realism, the other PMDGs, the captain sims, there are so much! Stop getting so emotional over just a video game addon!