Hello fellow users,I've had the "4100" now for several months and really love this bird. IS there a way in the sound config file to lower the VC engine sound?Everytime I fly the 41, I have to go into the FSX Sound and lower and change everything. I know with some other aircraft, the sound.cfg can be modifiedto raise/lower sounds? Just wondering - I am a very happy user.Thanks in advance,Tom

Hi Tom, I'm not sure which sounds you want lowered but have you tried to find the actual wav file yet? I don't normally touch the sound.cfg but in regard to the JS41 you'll be able to adjust some sounds in the cfg but the easy ones are the GPWS alerts and a few others like seat belt alert sounds etc. The majority of the sounds you'll see have a few parameters you can adjust and full_scale_distance= and then some cone angles you can play with but no easy way to just tweak the volumes. I suppose if you knew the sound file(s) names you could play with them and see if you could get them to your liking, but the coning can be a hard one to adjust (and probably isn't going to give you what you want). Of course make sure you back up your sound.cfg before hand :(I never personally felt the need to adjust the JS41's sounds and if anything just adjusted the overall sounds. But I have adjusted the sounds to the 747x. Again, you'll have to know the exact sound files you want adjusted then bring them into a sound editor and lower the DB (Decibels). I use Adobe Audition and Soundbooth which are pretty expensive apps but not sure anything out there that could do it as a free app.I have the JS41 also but to make sure I'm not violating the EULA you could email the files you want quieter and I could lower them and send them back. Just be sure to include how much you want each sound lowered either by 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 or by percentage.

Turbine777,Thanks for you interest and reply.I use Cockpit Chatter for the majority of my mouse movements, etc. In the JS41, the VC engine noise is so high that I cannot hear ATC or Cockpit Chatter, as I have to turn down in FSX Sound Sliders to compensate.........just turning the volume down does lower the engine in VC, but everything else. I am sure there is a "change" that can be made somewhere in the sound files/sound.cfg inside the JS4100 - I just don't know where or really how to modify sound configs. I get around FSX.cfg with tweaks. I am sure many of us '41' users would like a little lower sound in the cockpit, without sacrificing ATC etc.Thanks,Tom

Hi Tom, I'm not sure which sounds you want lowered but have you tried to find the actual wav file yet?

I actually think the engines are really loud. I'm assuming that's accurate, but wow. Might need to break the DC ANR headset out of the flight bag.... (kidding, of course, but compared to the other birds I fly in sim it is a loud baby.)

Regional turboprops are loud little b*****s... all of the ones I have been inside are loud. Wherever you sit, be it up front (just check out the youtube videos of JS4100 startups, there are a couple from inside the cockpits...), the Garretts are noisy...The real noise comes from the blades. From all I have heard of these things, real life or the Tube... I would say PMDG's sounds are spot on...Andrew

aentwis,You are correct - I've been in props very similar to these in real world and they are very noisy.I am just wanting to lower (even though in FSX they won't be as realistic), so I can hear ATC and Cockpit Chatter.Thanks so much,Tom

I don't understand Tom, I gave you the only two answers available. I guess you don't know or haven't looked into which sound files are the ones you want to lower? Have you even attempted to try anything in my post? You won't find any simple tweek and the leg work will be all your own. I guess I should have stated that more clearly but did offer the solution but of course you need to take the 5 minutes and find out what files are the loud ones that you want lowered.Having been posted on a very active forum for a couple days without any easier solution I would try as I mentioned.Sound settings in a sound.cfg are closely related to what the product has intended, so having messed with sound.cfgs for my custom AI sounds I highly doubt you will get the results you want from just tweaking the numbers in them. No matter what though, you will need to know which sound files are the ones "You" think are too loud. In the case I stated above with the queen it ended up being several .wavs.

Hello Turbine777,Friend, you have been most helpful and no sir I have not overlooked what you told me to do. I highly thank you.I opened up the "Sound Folder", and oh my gosh, there are tons of wav files. I clicked on each one and they are so similar that I couldn't make heads or tails of them.I have the foggiest clue as to which wav they use for the VC. I don't know, but I'll look in the aircraft.cfg and see if it makes any reference to it.Let you know and again, thanks.Tom

Turbine777,I looked in the aircraft.cfg and these old eyes never saw any reference to VC or what .wav they were using for cockpit vc engine sound. Any ideas?Thanks so much,Tom

Hi Tom, I don't think I ever saw reference to the sound files in the aircraft.cfg but then again never looked hehe.Finding the sounds can be difficult sometimes since there are usually several happening at once, or at least come the point where one might seem overwhelming.The sound.cfg normally doesn't help too much either, but you will see a line "viewpoint=" For the JS41 there are only two values, 1 & 2. I am betting that one of these are for the VC sound settings and the other would be the external views (At least thats how it is with the AI sounds). The hard part is finding which sound file it is. Normally editing the sound.cfg will mean there is never one line or section you would have to edit since in some cases they are listed for different thrust values so again, just finding the sound files and making changes to them directly is the easier way I think.For a couple of weeks when trying to find which sound did what in one of my AI sounds pak, I had to remove all of the sounds except one, then renamed it to match one of the original files, lauch the sim and then wait for it to taxi, takeoff and land to see which instances that sound was being used for each specific model (it was very time consuming).For finding the sound files in the queen that I wanted to turn down, it was easy. I just launched FSX in windowed mode and ran the sim and compared each sound file to the load ones I wanted to tweak. Once I thought I had them I just removed them from the sound folder and tested until I got all the ones I wanted. It only took about an hour and I would probably still trying to do it if modifying the sound.cfg (that can make a mess).There are two folders where sounds are stored for the JS41 as with the queen. They are "\\FSX\Sound\PMDG\J41" and "\\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG_JS4100\Sound".With the queen I ended up modifying quite a few to get the balance I wanted. I had a similar problem where I appreciated the realism of the sound set, but had other things I couldn't hear and of course those things didn't come with any way to increase their volume either so was forced to do what I could. Hope this helps,*To add to this, I have had people get bent out of shape when discussions like this arise (not you Tom) where developers seem to take offense to why some just prefer it different or like in this case have their unique circumstances that make it necessary to quiet things down a tad. Don't take offense, we still love the hard work that went into it and the realism, it isn't about anything to do with that. Sorry but had to add that since I am tired of being barked at for what some get pretty defensive about when insult is never my intention and obviously not yours.

Turbine777,I'll look into this closer this weekend when I have unaltered time to really work with it. I highly appreciate you patience and input. I am just hell-bent on getting a fix for it - and like you say,it's not about offending developers as they did an excellent job with the "41" - it's "MY" preference as I want to also hear ATC and Cockpit Chatter clearly.Thanks again and I'll keep you updated.Tom

From my experience, there's only one solution here. Under the options menu, lower both the FSX engine sound setting and the environment sound setting to 10%. At that level, you will be able to hear ATC. I think the PMDG soundset is great, but you will lose much of the realism in doing what I just described. I wish FSX could be tweaked to make the ATC voices louder, then you wouldn't have to compromise.

Hi guys,I would recommend following Curt's advice - the sound.cfg on this aircraft is particularly complex compared to the jets due to the prop angle sound implementation aswell as the engine sounds - hence I would not recommend touching the sound.cfg.Cheers,

A good idea for a patch or alternate sound pack would be "wearing voice canceling headset". I assume that turboprop pilots wear them. I wonder if the cockpit recordings in the original J41 package compensate for this? I mean, it's got a fantastic sound pack, but I'm assuming it's from recordings of the cockpit without a headset? You haven't actually put a headset on the mic when you recorded it?I'm usually flying on vatsim, and I'm constantly having to press "Q" to mute the sim and ask ATC to "repeat last transmission".

The most realistic way to deal with this is to setup FSX to send the ATC output to a pair of headphones, while leaving the other sounds on the speakers at normal (full) volume. Voila!