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New Eaglesoft DA-42

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Having spent some time in a DA42 this week (Oshkosh) I can state that the Eaglesoft DA-42 is exactly like the one I sat in. Exactly.
Sure they look similar.But. Look at the pict I posted above.Look at where the arrows point to.Now go to airliners.net and look at some real picts there and watch the vid about the iris plane on youtube(mins 6-26->6.36).Can you see/tell the differences ? In the real thing and the iris version you get a feeling of "depth" ? (so to say )in the Es you do not.Maybe to some this is not important but ,imo, since the rest of the plane is so nice why not matching it with a good vc ?just my 0.2
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Others state the VC is good, fine, excellent, etc. You obviously do not concur. Further you ask us to rebuild to your preference which is Iris. We still suggest that you purchase Iris since that's what you prefer.We consider the Eaglesoft DA42 Twin Star complete as is and are busy on other projects.

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Sure they look similar.But. Look at the pict I posted above.Look at where the arrows point to.Now go to airliners.net and look at some real picts there and watch the vid about the iris plane on youtube(mins 6-26->6.36).Can you see/tell the differences ? In the real thing and the iris version you get a feeling of "depth" ? (so to say )in the Es you do not.Maybe to some this is not important but ,imo, since the rest of the plane is so nice why not matching it with a good vc ?just my 0.2
Ok... let me set you straight on this... in the real aircraft you can not see that. Period. You would have to slam your head into the canopy to do so.Your expectations are 1000% unrealistic and to claim the VC Eaglesoft made is somehow flawed based on completely incorrect perceptions and expectations is inapproprate.

Ed Wilson

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Would it be possible to modify the vc ( see arrows) so that it looks like the vc in the iris package ? Like in the vid here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUWCrKVJAEk Fast forward and watch mins 6.26-6.36
I'm not sure what you're seeing that I'm not, because both the upper eyebrow and the nose are correctly modeled and visible on both products.The stby airspeed and stby altimeter positions however are reversed (primary scan is airspeed, attitude, then altitude), and the real DA42 does not have green LEDs under the four light switches, at least not in any of the real one's I've been in... :(

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I'm not sure what you're seeing that I'm not, because both the upper eyebrow and the nose are correctly modeled and visible on both products.
n4gix,What am I seeing.. let me try to explain..I see it's called "upper eyebrow" .Anyway, "upper eyebrows" are visibile on both products but they are different.The Es one is imo kinda flat and cartoonish the other one (iris') is not.Also try sitting in the Vc of the accel f-18..the "upper eyerbrow" is not flat.Same goes for the one in the mustang and also others.What I'm trying to say is that when you sit in the vc of the da42 it feels, to me at least, as if I was sitting in front of a wall..whereas in other planes where the "upper eyebrow" is "different" I get the feeling of "depth".

Beak, we understand your perception and we hope you understand ours.Again, we consider our DA42 Twin Star completed as is...Having said that, we reserve the right to change or revise any product at anytime at our discretion and on our time frame.This should not be read as a promise that changes will be made, only that we may take another look down the road.

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What I'm trying to say is that when you sit in the vc of the da42 it feels, to me at least, as if I was sitting in front of a wall..whereas in other planes where the "upper eyebrow" is "different" I get the feeling of "depth".
Thanks for explaining what you've perceived. As it happens, I modeled the actual "depth" of the upper eyebrow to real world scale. In FS the parallax generated by both the eyepoint position and zoom level affect the user's depth perception, which results in a foreshortening of nearer objects in the sightline. Also, cameras "see" differently than the human eye.I tried to replicate what I actually saw while sitting in the real aircraft, and not what a camera "sees."

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I'll add that the eyebrow panel on the real aircraft is thicker than it's being depicted in the IRIS DA-42. Almost a full inch thick in the real deal.From where you sit in the aircraft... it's about all you "see" regarding the eyebrow panel. The "depth" isn't really noticeable to you in the actual aircraft. It just really isn't there.

Ed Wilson

Mindstar Aviation
My Playland - I69

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