:( Just saw the news on the font page of AVSIM that Wilco is going to release a brand new Aiburs. Before I was going to purchase Leveld 763, now im waiting for this. :( Hope they will make a new model.

"On The Horizon"Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 1:09You read it here first. There's a new improvement pack coming from Wilco Publishing for their Airbus Series (FSX/2004) : A318-A319-A320-A321-A330-A340. AVSIM has been told, "this pack will include stunning new features as well as improved existing systems. This improvement pack will be available separately for the different Airbus Series versions." In 2007 Wilco Publishing released its Airbus Series and today Airbus Series v1 and Airbus Series v2 are still mentioned as the most advanced Airbus simulation for Microsoft Flight Simulator X/2004. Keep an eye on our front page as Wilco Publishing will be releasing more information to AVSIM soon.

:( Just saw the news on the font page of AVSIM that Wilco is going to release a brand new Aiburs. Before I was going to purchase Leveld 763, now im waiting for this. :( Hope they will make a new model.

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Yup, might be a while off, but will certainly be welcome. Kind of funny to see lots of developers in a race to get an A320 (and more) out now after so many years of everyone saying we need one and there being almost nothing available. Talk about going from famine to feast. So, I make that, Airsimmer, Aerosoft, Wilco, Just Flight, potentially still Flight 1 on behalf of others and possibly still PMDG, all in the new Airbus stakes. What's the betting that some hardware company makes a joystick that looks like the EADS sidestick controller when all that lot comes out?Let's just hope that out of all the A320s which we seem to be on the way toward having, one of them is a really decent stab at doing its systems justice. It also raises the possibility that they might consider tarting up their (or at least the Feelthere) 737, which would be another welcome move in my book.Al

So, I make that, Airsimmer, Aerosoft, Wilco, Just Flight, potentially still Flight 1 on behalf of others and possibly still PMDG, all in the new Airbus stakes. What's the betting that some hardware company makes a joystick that looks like the EADS sidestick controller when all that lot comes out?Al

Not to mention Flightsimlabs intention of producing one as well. Looks as though there will be an abundance of choice.

Wow, an updated Wilco A320 series (and A330/A340 series), with presumably a better external model and VC, and hopefully add the currently missing FBW overspeed protection. Will certainly put them a leg up on all the others, as their systems and flight model now is already pretty good. If they get this out faster then the rest, they could dominate the competition in regards to the Airbus.

Can't wait to get this Airbus. Hopefully their new A320-A330-A340 model will be a brand new one. I JUST want to see them make a better Autopilot system and FBW.

Can't wait to get this Airbus. Hopefully their new A320-A330-A340 model will be a brand new one. I JUST want to see them make a better Autopilot system and FBW.

What problems do you have with the Autopilot? The only issue I have is an initial drop below glide slope on interception in an Autoland, but it quickly recovers. The FBW system works well, except for the lack of overspeed protection. LNAV and VNAV also works well.

If you ask me: Even with the "stunning new features" of Wilco's "improvement pack", their Aribus series will still be only a vague compromise between "fact and fiction" and remain only what I'd name a "light" version of an A320 series.As long as top notch developers like PMDG don't release an A320, we'll never see a "real" simulated one, that's for sure. The're only a handful of companies in the FS market that are theoretically capable of producing an A320. I don't consider the people behind Wilco's 'buses to be among them.And for the A380: I suppose this beast will be even more complicated than an A320. FS never ever saw a "full blown" A320 in its history (though we have other planes like PMDG's MD-11 or Level-D's 767 playing in that league), so I don't have expectations to ever see a "master class" A380 (even with Next Level Simulations announcing one; announcements are one thing, developing another, and developing something good even another)...I have the impression that most ambitious projects heavily underestimate the degree of effort needed to get something like an A320 done well. The fact speaks for itself that after all those years, the're still only a handfull of airliners that you can rank as "crown class". If we'd have so many talented development teams, we'd have all those top notch 757s, A320s etc. But look what we really have?! If you subtract all the "light" and bug laden products from the mass of available airliners for FSX, all that's left is PMDG, LDS, Leonardo, maybe Simcheck and Digital Aviation, but starting from here, it gets really hard to find many more... You see, I'm pretty "disillutioned" and tired of struggling with "PIC-level" planes that contain so many bugs that I mostly fight against those than fly the machine or are incomplete in a high degree so I miss about 60% functionality in systems and so on...Andreas

except for the lack of overspeed protection.

V2 of the collection (A330 & A340) has/have overspeed protection.--

... only what I'd name a "light" version of an A320 series.

'light' is what over 95% of the FS 'community' wants. very very VERY few want sub sub sub and sub system simulation. being 'light' is not a fault, or a bug.for developers the 'return on investment' decreases quickly with each added level of system detail.there is also the matter of cost. for the hours of code and test required for a sub-sub-sub system simulation you cannot expect a <$50 price-point. just look at the cost of PMDG products, for example, and the number of 'attack threads' created about simulation/game cost.--

If you ask me: Even with the "stunning new features" of Wilco's "improvement pack", their Aribus series will still be only a vague compromise between "fact and fiction" and remain only what I'd name a "light" version of an A320 series.As long as top notch developers like PMDG don't release an A320, we'll never see a "real" simulated one, that's for sure. The're only a handful of companies in the FS market that are theoretically capable of producing an A320. I don't consider the people behind Wilco's 'buses to be among them.And for the A380: I suppose this beast will be even more complicated than an A320. FS never ever saw a "full blown" A320 in its history (though we have other planes like PMDG's MD-11 or Level-D's 767 playing in that league), so I don't have expectations to ever see a "master class" A380 (even with Next Level Simulations announcing one; announcements are one thing, developing another, and developing something good even another)...I have the impression that most ambitious projects heavily underestimate the degree of effort needed to get something like an A320 done well. The fact speaks for itself that after all those years, the're still only a handfull of airliners that you can rank as "crown class". If we'd have so many talented development teams, we'd have all those top notch 757s, A320s etc. But look what we really have?! If you subtract all the "light" and bug laden products from the mass of available airliners for FSX, all that's left is PMDG, LDS, Leonardo, maybe Simcheck and Digital Aviation, but starting from here, it gets really hard to find many more... You see, I'm pretty "disillutioned" and tired of struggling with "PIC-level" planes that contain so many bugs that I mostly fight against those than fly the machine or are incomplete in a high degree so I miss about 60% functionality in systems and so on...Andreas

Do you have the Wilco A320 or A330? What do you consider light with it? It models a FMGC, LNAV, VNAV , Most of the FBW functions (except Over Speed for the A320 series), Autoland, and it does it for the most part pretty well. I'll give you the external model is not done too well, but that is easily corrected by merging the Project Airbus model to it. If the update builds a better external model and maybe a new VC, fixes the FBW overspeed protection on the A320, it will be a real contender.

Hi ScoobHow long do we expect for the AIRBUS V3 or AIRBUX PRO? :(

Wilco messed up with throwing "compatible" products on the FSX market in the beginning and they went down the drain.I will not walk into the same ambush for a second time..If I were you, I would be very carefull and look out for other more reliable Airbusses in development by other softwarebuilders like Aerosoft etc..Regards,D

Considering how "Deep" of an airplane the A320 is, the wilco bus is really very light. does it have complexities? sure, there's a good list of features above the default functions. yes it has an FMGC, and managed/selected modes for the autopilot etc. so.....All things considered - No it's not complex in the sense of what has been done in FS. It's rather light, this is further amplified if you have a good understanding of the A320 in general.Many simmers don't care for that level of simulation though, which you've answered yourself by not fully understanding how "Deep" of an airplane it is beyond the a Partly functional FMGC, a simplified LNAV, VNAV, and a partly functional FBW system included with the Wilco A320. Like Scoob said though, it has its market - The mega high fidelity is more niche than the simplistic designs. Many of these "advanced" things are items simmers might use once, others may use them almost all the time, depends on the person.It's like owning a Rolex, or a Tube amplifier. Many people "Hear" that they are better, but a lot of people may never grow to appreciate their complexities.(Shrugs)

Do you have the Wilco A320 or A330? What do you consider light with it? It models a FMGC, LNAV, VNAV , Most of the FBW functions (except Over Speed for the A320 series), Autoland, and it does it for the most part pretty well. I'll give you the external model is not done too well, but that is easily corrected by merging the Project Airbus model to it. If the update builds a better external model and maybe a new VC, fixes the FBW overspeed protection on the A320, it will be a real contender.

Considering how "Deep" of an airplane the A320 is, the wilco bus is really very light. does it have complexities? sure, there's a good list of features above the default functions. yes it has an FMGC, and managed/selected modes for the autopilot etc. so.....All things considered - No it's not complex in the sense of what has been done in FS. It's rather light, this is further amplified if you have a good understanding of the A320 in general.Many simmers don't care for that level of simulation though, which you've answered yourself by not fully understanding how "Deep" of an airplane it is beyond the a Partly functional FMGC, a simplified LNAV, VNAV, and a partly functional FBW system included with the Wilco A320. Like Scoob said though, it has its market - The mega high fidelity is more niche than the simplistic designs. Many of these "advanced" things are items simmers might use once, others may use them almost all the time, depends on the person.It's like owning a Rolex, or a Tube amplifier. Many people "Hear" that they are better, but a lot of people may never grow to appreciate their complexities.(Shrugs)

Can you give me some examples of what you mean? It's FMGC is no less complicated then the PMDG 744, or LDS-767. It models LNAV, VNAV, Autoland, All but Over speed protection in FBW. It models pitch without the need to trim (FBW) well. It supports SIDS and STARS, it even models the FADEC throttle system. What am I missing? If you are talking about ACARS and other sub functions of the FMGC, then yes it is light then, but then neither does the PMDG or Level-D products model those functions.