I don't disagree with you.But the point is that is not how terrorsits bomb planes.That's a strategy to hijack a plane.Lockerbie and Air India where time bombs.Submitting to a scan feels safer...but is it?Anyone truly intent on violence will use other means.

I don't disagree with you.But the point is that is not how terrorsits bomb planes.That's a strategy to hijack a plane.Lockerbie and Air India where time bombs.Submitting to a scan feels safer...but is it?Anyone truly intent on violence will use other means.

When the cost of a fairly large fertilizer bomb is less than the price of a plane ticket why bother when you know everyones watching in the first place.

Something to consider is tourism into the USA. Since you guys are the only country in the world with this policy how do you think that will affect peoples travel plans. I know I am sceptical of traveling to the USA now.I am a Canadian Citizen and a New Zealand Resident. I used to fly back and forth between Canada and New Zealand either through Los Angeles or San Francisco. We move back to New Zealand from Toronto this January and this time we are going through Vancouver and bypassing the USA all together. First time we've done this.In the past we've spent a few days in California en-route but this time we are going to spend 6 days in Vancouver instead. That is tourism dollars lost for the US economy. I am sure there are others stories out there like mine.I have always enjoyed visiting the USA and have been to California many times so this is unfortunate due to a controversial policy. I believe eventually TSA will back down under pressure from the airlines and tourism industry once their has been an economic impact from all this. I have nothing to fear or hide it just comes down to why would anyone want to visit a place where you don’t feel welcome. When I welcome people to my home I don’t treat people like that.

I'm in complete agreement with Ytzpilot about the economic ramifications.I'm a Canadian citizen that lived and worked in California for many years, and I've seen a massive and steady decline in respect from US Customs, then DHS, and now TSA over the last ten of those. After being detained by DHS in a room at JFK for over two hours last year without explanation (and ultimately learning it was because I simply have a common name) my days of flying into the country are over. Like Ytzpilot I don't even connect through American cities when traveling abroad anymore, I go through a Canadian one even if it costs more, because there at least I am treated with some respect. It's a shame that things have gone this far. I used to really look forward to spending time in America and visiting my friends there. Now when I have need to visit I just drive, but I'm really not sure how long that may last either. If these x-rays and demeaning pat downs are allowed to continue at airports then I think it's only a matter of time before they're implemented at road borders and rail stations as well. I understand the desire for safety, but the cost in dignity and freedom is simply too high for me now. Where does it end?-Mike

I live in Los Angeles and I'm appalled by the TSA's brazen assault upon our dignity and natural rights. In my opinion this is a tipping point in American history, and if we don't find our backbone and say 'hell no!' to the TSA, then we deserve the nightmare of oppression that will inevitably follow. The TSA's actions are not about fighting terror, it's about training Americans to submit. Well, I am not going to fly again until the TSA is declawed and sent home packing. My father, on the phone with me this weekend, said he always used to wonder why the German people didn't rise up and put a stop to good old Adolph. Now he understands, of course, having watched a similar process at work here in the US. We used to think such a thing was impossible; now we know better. The process happens in slow, measured steps, until the final trap clicks shut. All it really takes is a sleeping citizenry and a group of would-be tyrants. This isn't about finding the right leaders to restore our freedom and dignity. This is about reclaiming it ourselves, as a people, without depending on a wholly corrupt political Machine, which has thoroughly proven itself no friend of the people it pretends to represent.P.S. I very much doubt the Wright Brothers, and the countless others who labored to give Humanity the gift of Flight, could have imagined it would be sullied in this way. It's tragic, really, that an army of minimum-wage thugs stands between me and the realization of our species' oldest dream...to slip the surly bonds of earth and take wing in the immaculate sky.

See the problem here is... they let Arizona get away with it's nonsense... how in the world are you going to come back after that? TSA is a drop in the bucket as far as ruining it for foreigners....

See the problem here is... they let Arizona get away with it's nonsense... how in the world are you going to come back after that? TSA is a drop in the bucket as far as ruining it for foreigners....

Last I heard, Arizona's law was on hold because the Feds(you know, the ones everyone seems to hate)stepped in. They reserve implementation of immigration law for themselves, not the states.Bob

I hope it gets sorted someday. Nothing worse then economic decline and it is in everyone’s best interest to have a healthy US economy. In order for the USA to succeed it needs to be open for business to the world.I am comfortable traveling domestically in Canada and New Zealand (my two countries), as well as visiting over to Australia. Travel is still enjoyable between these nations. Even here in Canada we still don't have metal detectors in airports up in our northern territories. They are only now mentioning that perhaps they should look into putting metal detectors up in those airports, but they probably won't as it will inconvenience our hunters:http://www.cbc.ca/ca...t-security.htmlGoes to show their are still some places left in the world where you can live with that type of freedom. Jump on a Canadian North Airlines 737-200 without metal detectors at the gate and fly up north with all your gear to do some hunting...Sounds good to me.

I for one hope a message is sent today this is not the way to handle airport security. Better use of multi-nation Intelligence Agencies is the best policy in monitoring cells and potential threats. One country is doing it with great success. The political correctness has to stop...

My 84 year old father and 83 year old mother have decided to drive their car to Florida this year instead of flying as they used to. Last time they had their undergarment and private parts padded to make sure they were not hiding explosives. I have never seen my Dad so upset in his life. He says he will never fly again!I assure you, Americans are in far more danger from my Dad being behind the wheel of the old Buick for several thousand miles back and forth instead of in an aisle seat. I too have been harassed and hasseled far too often for there to be much residual good will left for the good ol US of A. I thank my lucky starts every day for where I was born and live. Freedom is everything. Security means nothing without it. Paranoia is an illness. The United States is mentally ill with it.Kind regards,

I happen to be a pilot(GA not commercial) and a diagnostic radiologist so I have been following this overall topic with some interest.I happen to think that commercial flying is a privilege, not a right so if these are hoops we have to jump through to keep our skies (relatively) safe then I do them gladly. After looking at the dose (less than 1 mrem) for each scan I can live with it, it's less than a cross-country flight itself(2-5 mrem). I would rather people get screened and grumble then my plane go down in flames from some nutjob with a bomb. I am also of Indian origin and 6'4" tall, and after 911 you better believe I got screened (this was before scanners so it was "Hands on") on every flight, even then it didn't really bother me too much, espescially when looking at the alternative.I mean this debate can go around forever, but I just think if you don't like it, then don't fly commercial.@ Spiritflyer, a question, if 14 guys had flown planes into downtown Montreal, do you think Canada would have a better system in place for airplane security screening?

@ Spiritflyer, a question, if 14 guys had flown planes into downtown Montreal, do you think Canada would have a better system in place for airplane security screening?

We had Air India flight 182 and if that is any indication on how we handle things. Then yes I would say we would handle things different then the USA. We are two different nations, different laws, and different governments. Different set of charter of rights and freedoms. I wouldn’t say better or worse, just different.We also had our Toronto 18 terrorists ring but that was busted by the law enforcement agencies. But that is proof enough we need to be every bit as vigilant as the USA but we handle it different. I think Israel is the better model in how to handle security then the USA. But Canada is neither like the USA or Israel.(Sorry Stephen I answered but I couldn't resist....You can answer as well)

"It's a nonevent," said Christopher White, a spokesman for AirTran Airways. "... When it comes down to it, people want to get to their destinations as quickly and easily as possible."

"It's a nonevent," said Christopher White, a spokesman for AirTran Airways. "... When it comes down to it, people want to get to their destinations as quickly and easily as possible."

That's what I am reading as well. It sort of fizzled. I think the protest was flawed in the first place. They were asking people to refuse a machine so they could be patted down. Most people don't like physical contact and don't fly often enough to worry about those machines. And yes, most people just want to get to Grandma's for some TURKEY.... :(

But Canada is neither like the USA or Israel.(Sorry Stephen I answered but I couldn't resist....You can answer as well)

I think you did a fine job. I had thought about a sarcastic retort referring to the dangers of simplistic jingoistic myopic narcissistic egocentric paranoid nationalism, :( but hey, why bother? It is what it is, whatever it is.Instead, :( I wish all my American friends a Happy Thankgiving! Be safe and I hope you enjoy your day with family and friends! Kind regards,