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A little Heads-Up on the NGX...

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Same here, but I have second toughs weather this will be implemented. In none of the screenshots RNP/ANP indications and deviation markers show on the PFD/ND. All of them should be showing all the time as there is no way to turn them off. Hopefully they are almost done but not yet added to the alpha code.
Eric-The down side for a developer showing you images taken from an ALPHA product, is that we get folks who are desperately trying to show us how smart they are by pointing out things that haven't been implemented yet... You don't know a darn thing about what will or will not be implemented- so please keep this in mind before you attempt to start a forum spat over whether RNP will or will not be implemented.Spend 10 minutes using the search function and you'd find that not only are you wrong- but you don't know nearly as much about the airplane as you let on.

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Sorry guys, forgot to turn my ENB on when I took that shot...
ehehe... btw that picture is a nice one to show how PMDG 737NGX will be :(- But PMDG, dear PMDG (:(), will there be every come some more screenies about the VC and or exterior of the 737NGX?:(

Steven Albi

Eric-The down side for a developer showing you images taken from an ALPHA product, is that we get folks who are desperately trying to show us how smart they are by pointing out things that haven't been implemented yet... You don't know a darn thing about what will or will not be implemented- so please keep this in mind before you attempt to start a forum spat over whether RNP will or will not be implemented.Spend 10 minutes using the search function and you'd find that not only are you wrong- but you don't know nearly as much about the airplane as you let on.
Ohhhh. Snap! And Amen.Bobby Arnold

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RNP is actually handled logic-wise inside the FMC - just because you don't see the deviation annunciations yet on the PFD/ND in alpha screenshots doesn't mean it isn't there already internally. (it actually has been for a long time during development)

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What the heck? that model looks way off... I mean, the wing tip is clearly bent upwards :(

Here's a nice NG "screenshot" I took earlier: :(kphx-klas.jpgSomewhere in the vicinity of the IGM VOR, KPHX-KLAS
Eric-The down side for a developer showing you images taken from an ALPHA product, is that we get folks who are desperately trying to show us how smart they are by pointing out things that haven't been implemented yet... You don't know a darn thing about what will or will not be implemented- so please keep this in mind before you attempt to start a forum spat over whether RNP will or will not be implemented.Spend 10 minutes using the search function and you'd find that not only are you wrong- but you don't know nearly as much about the airplane as you let on.
Robert,Thanks for your confirmation. I apologize if I sounded too confident in my answer, but I did make a remark as an opinion on Alpha code and pointed that out. No plan for me to start a forum "spat". And I do remember clearly both answers being given. First that it wont be implemented, and then later that ANP and RNP and all that else will be. I don't know too much about the 737NG but I do know quite a lot on the RNP and PBN as I am participating in designing these procedures here.Now, past apologies, I am actually jumping up and down to get this confirmed from you. RNP or no RNP, what you are doing with the NGX is just incredible and I can understand how some remarks might sound aggressive. Rest assured they are not and we are looking to switch to B737NG for our home cockpit the moment it is released.

Eric Bocaneanu

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As I remember PMDG will not make a virtual cabin, so I don't think they will make it happy.gif It surely looks nice the new interior :)
As much as I would love to build a cabin interior (I wish you could all see the section I had for the MD11), it really is a huge resource hog if done properly (I refuse to build a cabin with cement block seats and blurry bitmaps). We have packed so much quality into the VC and worked very hard at every turn to maximize performance. To detract from its performance by adding thousands of polygons and megabytes of bitmaps for a heavy cabin would really be a disservice to all of you, even those who like to ride in the back. Aside from that, PMDG's stated goal is to provide education and entertainment for customers interested in the complex environment of commercial aviation. The passenger experience is not a part of that.We will however be including wings you can see from the cockpit as you turn your head back.

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We will however be including wings you can see from the cockpit as you turn your head back.
AHA!! fantastic!!i know one member in particular who will be very happy with this statement,his name tristan merchant

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Apologies for being pedantic about this excellent feature in the sim, but HUGS is not a "Heads Up Guidance System", it's a "Head Up Guidance System". Pilots I've met only have one head to look up with. The youtube video title is wrong. The thread title is of course correct though as it is a "heads up" to everyone interested.Sorry all, but the confusion between "heads up" and "head up" is a pet hate of mine.Kevin

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Apologies for being pedantic about this excellent feature in the sim, but HUGS is not a "Heads Up Guidance System", it's a "Head Up Guidance System". Pilots I've met only have one head to look up with. The youtube video title is wrong. The thread title is of course correct though as it is a "heads up" to everyone interested.Sorry all, but the confusion between "heads up" and "head up" is a pet hate of mine.Kevin
Ha! Kevin. PMDG Security has taken the lowly modeller out back and beaten him severely for this egregious error.

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Would pilots/airlines have a policy where by the HUGS is used for night time approaches? Or would it not be necessary where ILS is available, or is it not as effective (the display) against HIAL?

Jeff Blyth

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We will however be including wings you can see from the cockpit as you turn your head back.
YES, YES, YES!!!!!! One of the things I was hoping for. Thanks Vin.:D
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Would pilots/airlines have a policy where by the HUGS is used for night time approaches? Or would it not be necessary where ILS is available, or is it not as effective (the display) against HIAL?
I know at Southwest they actually don't use autoland in CAT III conditions, use of the HGS is required for that and the captain must fly the approach. Not sure what the rules are at other airlines.

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I know at Southwest they actually don't use autoland in CAT III conditions, use of the HGS is required for that and the captain must fly the approach. Not sure what the rules are at other airlines.
Wouldn't an autoland be safer? Less fun, but safer.

I know in the military we always have this old saying that "you can always add to but you can never take away" with policies. While the FAA has minimum guidelines established for such weather conditions the airlines are able to write their own SOP's (standard operating procedures) to supplement these guidelines, and tailor them to the particular type models in some cases. So depending on what pilot you ask and what airline they work for depends on the type of answer you would get. I know in the military most of these SOP's are written in blood (after something bad happens and brings it to light). I am sure that is not how they come about in commercial aviation, but probably some bad experiences are involved. My guess would be the reason you want a person to hand fly a CatIII approach with the HGS is even though you are supposed to be alert, and the PF is supposed to be hands on the controls in case immediate action is required. It does take time to react to an unexpected situation, and at low altitudes depending on clearances in the glide path you may not have much room for error. I would think to you would hand fly a good bit of the approaches just to get the checks in the block to maintain their quals?

Steve Jordan

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