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Best Defrag - Methods

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Hi guys,a quick forum search [engine] shows no dedicated discussion on degrag of the computerI am currently loading everything onto a fresh installWhat is the best Defrag, is it neccassary for FSX, and [in the case of O&S] how should we defrag our desktops?Alex

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Hi, try Defraggler from Piriform http://www.piriform.com/defraggler . I defrag my pc every week, the progremm works realy nice and stable.

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I'm very much sold on Ultimate Defrag 3 now - there's nothing else out there like it. Full control over exactly which files go where and in which order. It's awesome. It was actually designed by a simmer too (Robert Ferraro at PC Aviator). I've since uninstalled both Perfect Disk and O&O.

Ryan Maziarz
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I'm using O&O 12. Deep optimize weekly works well on my system.

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O&O here. I do a COMPLETE/NAME once a month. works well for me

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I'm very much sold on Ultimate Defrag 3 now - there's nothing else out there like it. Full control over exactly which files go where and in which order. It's awesome. It was actually designed by a simmer too (Robert Ferraro at PC Aviator). I've since uninstalled both Perfect Disk and O&O.
Hi Ryan,How do you defrag in Ultiate Defrag 3 to optimize for FSX. Megascenery, etc... I've had nothing but problems with it, though I was on VISTA at the time. :(I'm now on Windows 7 and made a HUGE improvment alone. When I tried to Name/File and also frequenctly used options e.g. used within the last 90 days outer tracks and less used on inner tracks. Anyway, it just became an increadible mess. My system came to an absolute crawl and It would take 3 mins to open up internet explorer.Any suggestions?Thanks,BillyBob

BillyBob :biggrin:   

David M. Edwards

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File/Folder mode and I went into the settings and manually configured the High Performance and Archive folder order. It's just like O&O's Complete/NAME with the added benefit that you can choose the exact order of the folders, it doesn't have to be alphabetical. So I can have FSX first, then Starcraft II, then Steam or whatever I want, not the alphabetical that you're limited to in O&O. UD3 has a very cool Simulation mode too so you can set up your options and then virtually do the defrag in a few seconds to see what the drive layout will end up looking like. Makes it very easy to see if your settings are going to do what you're expecting.

Ryan Maziarz
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File/Folder mode and I went into the settings and manually configured the High Performance and Archive folder order. It's just like O&O's Complete/NAME with the added benefit that you can choose the exact order of the folders, it doesn't have to be alphabetical. So I can have FSX first, then Starcraft II, then Steam or whatever I want, not the alphabetical that you're limited to in O&O. UD3 has a very cool Simulation mode too so you can set up your options and then virtually do the defrag in a few seconds to see what the drive layout will end up looking like. Makes it very easy to see if your settings are going to do what you're expecting.
Thanks Ryan I'll give this a try.Also, I'm looking at doing my first Overclocking. I have a Dell insprion 530 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6660 2.4 GHZ. I've ordered Artic Freeze cooler from new egg to install.How do I overclock it? I would assume to go into the bios and change things. Any suggestions on how to overclock this rig. I see on the web this system is stable with an overclock to 3.0GHZ. I'm just worried I'm going to blow it out with changing things in the bios and not knowing what I'm doing.Is there any good web sites that show how to do this?Thanks,BillyBob

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David M. Edwards

Dell Alienware Area 51-R5: Intel Core i9 7980XE (18-Core Central Processing Unit [C.P.U.]), 64 Gigabytes (GB) of Dual Channel HyperX DDR4 at 2,904MHZ, 2X Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080Ti (11GB GDDR5X, each) in Scalable Link Interface (S.L.I.) or parallel configuration, 1,500 Watt power supply, 3x Solid State Drives (S.S.D.), Track Infrared (I.R.) 5 head tracking head gear and receiver (Natural Point, Corvallis, OR. United States of America [U.S.A.])  and a Dell 4K Ultrasharp 32 inch monitor.

Lockheed Martin Prepar 3D version 4.4 (P3Dv4.4), Addons And Updates GALORE! 

KPDX (Portland, OR), KHIO (Hillsboro, OR)  United States of America, Planet Earth..

I usually use jkdefrag, it is small, free, no install can be run from command line so you can even have a task to run it automatically, it it is efficient, maybe not as much as the big ones but still good enough for me :)

Aurelien Vandoorine

Sorry Ryan,I've got a Dell. Just found out they don't allow bio editing. LOL BB

BillyBob :biggrin:   

David M. Edwards

Dell Alienware Area 51-R5: Intel Core i9 7980XE (18-Core Central Processing Unit [C.P.U.]), 64 Gigabytes (GB) of Dual Channel HyperX DDR4 at 2,904MHZ, 2X Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080Ti (11GB GDDR5X, each) in Scalable Link Interface (S.L.I.) or parallel configuration, 1,500 Watt power supply, 3x Solid State Drives (S.S.D.), Track Infrared (I.R.) 5 head tracking head gear and receiver (Natural Point, Corvallis, OR. United States of America [U.S.A.])  and a Dell 4K Ultrasharp 32 inch monitor.

Lockheed Martin Prepar 3D version 4.4 (P3Dv4.4), Addons And Updates GALORE! 

KPDX (Portland, OR), KHIO (Hillsboro, OR)  United States of America, Planet Earth..

  • 1 year later...
File/Folder mode and I went into the settings and manually configured the High Performance and Archive folder order.
Old topic, but still a very relevant one with good advice. Just curious Ryan, but do you still use Ultimate 3, and do you still do as quoted above? I got it on sale a few days ago for $14.99. I don't have the passion of digging through the manuals with software like this as I do the sims, but I have been digging. I'm having a hard time with some things and it seems to want to always defrag all 4 of my drives and not sure why. The main thing though is after using O&O for the last year or so, I'm trying to regroup and relearn this. I'm really liking the folder choosing method over O&O's abc's, although, I didn't know that's what "Archive" meant until now.

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Dan Prunier

Good Call on Ultimate Defragger 3 I have always used the Winblows Defragger and this is way better.

Ash Keelson

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I've been working on a mini tutorial series of some FSX related things and others as well. Trying to take advantage of my fresh install and showing some little things here and there for windows tweaks, the importance of certain settings, UAC, group polocies etc... They still aren't edited and only rushed this one yesterday to answer a question on my forum about Ult3. The developer has some videos on it, but they're pretty awful. No mic, not even text so it's easy to walk away only more frustrated (Like EZCA's tutorials where people just wave their mouse cursor and hope you understand).This video is currently unlisted but as with the paint tutorial, will become listed (Public) once the others are done. I figured I'd just post this here since I don't think there's any reason to start a thread on it.Here tiz:

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i9 10920x @ 4.8 ~ MSI Creator x299 ~ 256 Gb 3600 G.Skill Trident Z Royal ~ EVGA RTX 3090ti ~ Sim drive = M.2  2-TB ~ OS drive = M.2 is 512-gb ~ 5 other Samsung Pro/Evo mix SSD's ~ EVGA 1600w ~ Win 10 Pro

Dan Prunier

I've been working on a mini tutorial series of some FSX related things and others as well. Trying to take advantage of my fresh install and showing some little things here and there for windows tweaks, the importance of certain settings, UAC, group polocies etc... They still aren't edited and only rushed this one yesterday to answer a question on my forum about Ult3. The developer has some videos on it, but they're pretty awful. No mic, not even text so it's easy to walk away only more frustrated (Like EZCA's tutorials where people just wave their mouse cursor and hope you understand).This video is currently unlisted but as with the paint tutorial, will become listed (Public) once the others are done. I figured I'd just post this here since I don't think there's any reason to start a thread on it.Here tiz:

Thanks for that great tutorial, very useful! I also have UD 3, and last time I defragged FSX, I regretted it, and again, I do. I just defragged, using the following settings:Defrag mode: FOLDER/FILENAMEOptions: checked: respect high performance respect archive put directories close do MFTUnchecked: complete high performance then stopSettings:High performance -> Custom -> Select Files -> C:/FSXStrict placement sorted by: Folder/Filename - AscArchive:Automatic: 50% least frequently used dataVery fast placement (may leave small disk spaces) accidently left it on this, my mistake.Respect Layout.iniI understood what you said about Respect Layout.ini, but still I'm not sure wether to use it for FSX or not.After defragging, the outer edge of my HDD was mostly magenta (high performance), but there were also some locked files (grey). Most of this out space was FSX, but not everything. The inner part of my HDD (close to the center), was mostly my OS, but there were also some FSX directories there! After starting up FSX, it did definately not improve FPS, also it increased stutters. again, I regret it. But probably it's all my own fault, therefore I hope that you can help me, because there are some questions that I'm having.For succesful drefragmentation of FSX...: - Should I use Asc or Desc for the High Performance and Archive section?- Should I check "Respect Layout.ini" or not? - What settings should i use in the archive section? Automatic or Custom (and then again choose C:FSX)? And should I choose fast placement, very fast placement, or strict placement for the Archive section? And Asc or Desc?I hope you can help me! Afterwards I'll defrag again! complete archive then stop

Arjen Vandervelde

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