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My Sandy Bridge Experience

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SpiritFlyer,I just ordered my SB and assorted parts. This will be my first self build computer, but I'm confident I can do it. Do you know of any guides. IE, do this before this?
I don't know of any formal stuff, but first "Butcher your Ox" i.e. get the bits in front of you.Second read the installation instructions for the Mobo and OS if you starting from scratch. Then read them again. You'll need to fit the the hardware into your case before you start. There will be some differences if you are building an OS because you can't install the Mobo drivers until you have an operating system and in all probability the system won't be operating at maximum potential because you haven't yet installed the mobo drivers. You will need to make decisions on your disk farm up front i.e. IDE, AHCI, Raid etc choices because you should change the BIOS before you start the OS build. Provided you proceed cautiously and sensibly (IE don't fry the mobo or memory) you can always start again, it only costs time. Try and find someone that you can ring for advice during the build they may be able to clear any stumbling blocks that arise in your head and hand hold from afar. Good Luck with your build. :Applause:

John

Rig: Gigabyte B550 AORUS Master Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT CPU, 32GB DDR4 Ram, Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Graphics,  Samsung Odyssey  wide view display (5120 x 1440 pixels) with VSYNC on.

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Now I just need to get some of you guys to teach me how to properly create videos from FSX...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Nl8XuLW2Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBqUhZJTwIQ

Corey Meeks

FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W

Momma always said you need 5ghz to run FSX... she was so right!

Now I just need to get some of you guys to teach me how to properly create videos from FSX...
Amazing performance :)What Vcore for 5GHz please?
disabled the warning systems in the FSX config file,
Lucky boy Spirit:)Hey, does doing the above tweak help preformance, or is it just to stop noise or messages?
Simon
Now I just need to get some of you guys to teach me how to properly create videos from FSX...
Hey Corey,Outstanding! I used to fly only tubeliners but I have not even loaded my Level D for probably 2 years. Your video makes it looks like so much fun maybe I need to revisit that. Would you be so kind as to send me (either here or PM) both your regular everyday bios settings for flying and your 5.0g OC settings, including voltage. I was able to achieve 5.0g without hyperthreading with 1.43 volts on the CPU, passed all the stress tests and fly FSX without temperatures exceeding 60ish C. But with hyperthreading enabled it will not go past 4.9g and be perfectly stable. I have settled on (for now) 4.6g on 8 cores for everyday work and 4.8g on 4 cores for FSX, both of which run around 1.35 volts on the CPU.Kind regards,
Hey Corey,Outstanding! I used to fly only tubeliners but I have not even loaded my Level D for probably 2 years. Your video makes it looks like so much fun maybe I need to revisit that. Would you be so kind as to send me (either here or PM) both your regular everyday bios settings for flying and your 5.0g OC settings, including voltage. I was able to achieve 5.9g without hyperthreading with 1.43 volts on the CPU, passed all the stress tests and fly FSX without temperatures exceeding 60ish C. But with hyperthreading enabled it will not go past 4.9g and be perfectly stable. I have settled on (for now) 4.6g on 8 cores for everyday work and 4.8g on 4 cores for FSX, both of which run around 1.35 volts on the CPU.Kind regards,
Not yet! :--))

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

Not yet! :--))
Sorry! Typo which I fixed :blush: to what it was supposed to be: 5.0gKind regards,
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Hey Stephen, it's 5.0GHz with HT off that I'm doing as there's no way my cooling would handle HT on at that speed. I'll post my bios settings here for everybody to see - but realize it's not going to look nearly as fancy as that EFI bios you ASUS guys get! Temperatures reach mid 60s at the settings below. My everyday settings may just end up being 5.0GHz HT off, but eventually I'll enable turbo so it's not idling at 5.0GHz unnecessarily. I should mention that while the vcore is set to 1.36 in the bios, it's about 1.404v at load. My 4.6GHz HT on settings are identical to below, but with vcore set to 1.26 in the bios for 1.296v at load. I'm hoping that I can eventually get my memory operating at 2133MHz, but I'm going to wait for a newer bios revision before I try again.

### MB Intelligent Tweaker ###> Advanced Frequency Settings:CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50BCLK/DMI/PEG Clock Control ............................[ EnabledBCLK/DMI/PEG Frequency Control ........................[ 1002System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 18.66>> Advanced CPU Core FeaturesCPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage...........................[ EnabledReal Time Ratio Changes In OS .........................[ DisabledIntel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .............................[ DisabledTurbo Ratio (Core 1)...................................[ AutoTurbo Ratio (Core 2)...................................[ AutoTurbo Ratio (Core 3)...................................[ AutoTurbo Ratio (Core 4)...................................[ AutoTurbo Power Limit (Watts)..............................[ 350Turbo Current Limit (Amps).............................[ 350CPU Cores Enabled ............................ ........[ AllCPU Multi Threading....................................[ DisabledCPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ...............................[ DisabledC3/C6 State Support ...................................[ DisabledCPU Thermal Monitor ...................................[ DisabledCPU EIST Function .....................................[ DisabledBi-Directional PROCHOT ................................[ Disabled> Advanced Memory Settings:System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 18.66Performance Enhance ...................................[ TurboDRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..........................[ QuickChannel Interleaving ..................................[ EnabledRank Interleaving .....................................[ Enabled>> Channel A Timing Settings:##Channel A Standard Timing Control##CAS Latency Time ......................................[ 9tRCD ..................................................[ 10tRP ...................................................[ 9tRAS ..................................................[ 27tRC ...................................................[ AutotRRD ..................................................[ AutotWTR ..................................................[ AutotWR ...................................................[ AutotWTP ..................................................[ AutotWL ...................................................[ AutotRFC ..................................................[ AutotRTP ..................................................[ AutotFAW ..................................................[ AutoCommand Rate (CMD) ....................................[ 1IO Latency ............................................[ AutoRound Trip Latency ....................................[ Auto> Advanced Voltage Control:CPULoad Line Calibration .................................[ Level 1CPU Vcore .............................................[ 1.36QPI/VTT Voltage 1.050v ................................[ 1.12System Agent Voltage 0.925v ...........................[ 0.925PCH Core 1.050v .......................................[ 1.050CPU PLL 1.800v ........................................[ 1.76DRAMDRAM Voltage 1.500v ...................................[ 1.60DRAM Vref 0.750v ......................................[ AutoDRAM Termination 0.750v ...............................[ AutoCh-A Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ AutoCh-B Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ AutoCh-A Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ AutoCh-B Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto> Miscellaneous SettingsIsochronous Support ...................................[ DisabledVirtualization Technology .............................[ Disabled

Corey Meeks

FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W

Brillant o/c !

- PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D //  Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO //  2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 //  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600  //  Corsair 1600W PSU
Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor.
- Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7. 

   

 

 

Thank you Corey, we are getting there a little bit by little bit. I took a flight with this setting (default FSX) and was most impressed. :Big Grin: 1835.pngKind regards,

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5.0GHz at 1.38ish - not bad at all! If you don't mind sharing, what CPU batch number do you have?By the way, IBT doesn't seem to stress these CPUs too much unless you have W7 SP1, which isn't officially available yet. I would recommend prime95 blend and small FFT if you want to stress test for stability.

Corey Meeks

FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W

5.0GHz at 1.38ish - not bad at all! If you don't mind sharing, what CPU batch number do you have?By the way, IBT doesn't seem to stress these CPUs too much unless you have W7 SP1, which isn't officially available yet. I would recommend prime95 blend and small FFT if you want to stress test for stability.
L041B204 I don't think it is anything special. Many people are doing as good or better. For instance jjjallen (Jim) has a different batch number that has a lot better numbers. Kind regards,
Hey Stephen, it's 5.0GHz with HT off that I'm doing as there's no way my cooling would handle HT on at that speed. I'll post my bios settings here for everybody to see - but realize it's not going to look nearly as fancy as that EFI bios you ASUS guys get! Temperatures reach mid 60s at the settings below. My everyday settings may just end up being 5.0GHz HT off, but eventually I'll enable turbo so it's not idling at 5.0GHz unnecessarily. I should mention that while the vcore is set to 1.36 in the bios, it's about 1.404v at load. My 4.6GHz HT on settings are identical to below, but with vcore set to 1.26 in the bios for 1.296v at load. I'm hoping that I can eventually get my memory operating at 2133MHz, but I'm going to wait for a newer bios revision before I try again.
### MB Intelligent Tweaker ###> Advanced Frequency Settings:CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50BCLK/DMI/PEG Clock Control ............................[ EnabledBCLK/DMI/PEG Frequency Control ........................[ 1002System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 18.66>> Advanced CPU Core FeaturesCPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage...........................[ EnabledReal Time Ratio Changes In OS .........................[ DisabledIntel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .............................[ DisabledTurbo Ratio (Core 1)...................................[ AutoTurbo Ratio (Core 2)...................................[ AutoTurbo Ratio (Core 3)...................................[ AutoTurbo Ratio (Core 4)...................................[ AutoTurbo Power Limit (Watts)..............................[ 350Turbo Current Limit (Amps).............................[ 350CPU Cores Enabled ............................ ........[ AllCPU Multi Threading....................................[ DisabledCPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ...............................[ DisabledC3/C6 State Support ...................................[ DisabledCPU Thermal Monitor ...................................[ DisabledCPU EIST Function .....................................[ DisabledBi-Directional PROCHOT ................................[ Disabled> Advanced Memory Settings:System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 18.66Performance Enhance ...................................[ TurboDRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..........................[ QuickChannel Interleaving ..................................[ EnabledRank Interleaving .....................................[ Enabled>> Channel A Timing Settings:##Channel A Standard Timing Control##CAS Latency Time ......................................[ 9tRCD ..................................................[ 10tRP ...................................................[ 9tRAS ..................................................[ 27tRC ...................................................[ AutotRRD ..................................................[ AutotWTR ..................................................[ AutotWR ...................................................[ AutotWTP ..................................................[ AutotWL ...................................................[ AutotRFC ..................................................[ AutotRTP ..................................................[ AutotFAW ..................................................[ AutoCommand Rate (CMD) ....................................[ 1IO Latency ............................................[ AutoRound Trip Latency ....................................[ Auto> Advanced Voltage Control:CPULoad Line Calibration .................................[ Level 1CPU Vcore .............................................[ 1.36QPI/VTT Voltage 1.050v ................................[ 1.12System Agent Voltage 0.925v ...........................[ 0.925PCH Core 1.050v .......................................[ 1.050CPU PLL 1.800v ........................................[ 1.76DRAMDRAM Voltage 1.500v ...................................[ 1.60DRAM Vref 0.750v ......................................[ AutoDRAM Termination 0.750v ...............................[ AutoCh-A Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ AutoCh-B Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ AutoCh-A Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ AutoCh-B Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto> Miscellaneous SettingsIsochronous Support ...................................[ DisabledVirtualization Technology .............................[ Disabled

Thanks for this table. I just ordered an I7 2600K and a Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7 so your OC info should be very useful.

John

Rig: Gigabyte B550 AORUS Master Motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT CPU, 32GB DDR4 Ram, Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Graphics,  Samsung Odyssey  wide view display (5120 x 1440 pixels) with VSYNC on.

Question for you Stephen. I just noticed that the ram I ordered for my system was the Mushkin 998805 6GB DDR3 PC3-12800 6-8-6-24 Redline. I guess I had assumed it was 2x3GB as opposed to 2GBX3. Will that be a problem installing 3 DIMMS in the Asus P8P67 Deluxe MB?

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

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