This is not about pilots that use FSX after work. It's about pilots that have a INITIAL training in a PC simulator, like FSX, using addons like PMDG to gain a basic experience before moving to a real simulator and go deeper in the training. And if you're not aware, many pilots (I didn't said all of them) enjoy using PC simulators to have a basic experience in other aircrafts or to try situations they couldn't do in a real airplane and have a bit more experience in the aircraft they pilot.

NOW that is why I use the pmdg 747. Learning and experiencing the jumbo before the real training I will have in 5 years. It really helps! I could just imagine being in class struggling with the FMC lol that was hard and took me ages but now I am a master!

you cant go lower than 2.5 on final approach,,at full flaps and at VREF +5 you will be fine at 5 degrees, as you said depends on the wind but normally it will be the same angle for all landings because of the laws of physics if you are using the right speed you should be getting the same lift component on each landing

can someone explain to me about VREF?

...before the real training I will have in 5 years....can someone explain to me about VREF?

You can fly any plane without the FMC but you can't land a Cessna properly if you don't know and understand V speeds. If you want to fly the real thing in 5 years, you should consider paying more attention to flying, and less to programming the FMC. Here is a link to some books on the basics of flying, here. They will help you in your pilot selection programs far more then knowing how to program an ILS circling approach.In aviation terms, the V stands for velocity, a more precise word for speed. The suffix (the bit after the V) indicates which type of speed we are talking about. So ref, as in Vref, is 'reference', and is our landing reference speed (the slowest speed the appropriately configured aircraft can actually fly at, any slower and you are not flying, you are crashing). Another one you will often hear is Vr, which stands for Velocity of Rotation, the speed we want to pull the stick back at for take off. There are lots of others which you can look up but those are probably the most important and most used ones.

I have gained a lot of success and experience in flying the PMDG 747 and I think I too can fly as same in real world, just I have to become a bit taller coz I am 13 and only 5' 1" tall. LOL!!!

He guys,just a short comment from my side.I have done 2 hours on a full flight sim at Lufthansa in FFM. After many ours with PMDG 744 i can sayi was absolutly familar with all systems on that great airliner. It was no prob to operate the 744 fromcold and dark at departure airport to shutdown on destination. Everything works as expected and simulatedwithin PMDG 744. In touch with original controlls and stearing tiller i must say something is easier in the real one.You can imagine that the instructor has some question marks in his eyes. He was former 742Pilot and hadn't an idea how automatic flight works on a 744.The only challange is to fly manual and keep everything under control. But this is a different story.For me PMDG 744 is quit close to reality and represents what's finaly possible on PC based simulation.RegardsAndreas Hövel

You can fly any plane without the FMC but you can't land a Cessna properly if you don't know and understand V speeds. If you want to fly the real thing in 5 years, you should consider paying more attention to flying, and less to programming the FMC. Here is a link to some books on the basics of flying, here. They will help you in your pilot selection programs far more then knowing how to program an ILS circling approach.In aviation terms, the V stands for velocity, a more precise word for speed. The suffix (the bit after the V) indicates which type of speed we are talking about. So ref, as in Vref, is 'reference', and is our landing reference speed (the slowest speed the appropriately configured aircraft can actually fly at, any slower and you are not flying, you are crashing). Another one you will often hear is Vr, which stands for Velocity of Rotation, the speed we want to pull the stick back at for take off. There are lots of others which you can look up but those are probably the most important and most used ones.

Well at least that is over with. Although its only the honeywell I know how to program. Now, Im 13 and next year Im 14 and at that age its legal to start flight training. Your hours can start at the age of 14 and same for flight training. I will learn so much basics so not to worry. Also I recently applied for a virtual airline and they excepted me cause I passed the test. They sent me flight training to do worth of 10 hours.

I have been subbed to him for years. I watched a 747 dvd and he is right. They said in the dvd that when you land you flare 2 degrees at 30feet. I tried it and it works great.I wonder if he flys the PMDG 747. My guess he might actually use FS considering he knew what PMDG was.

Yes I noticed that to, the PMDG 747 lands very smooth, spot on with the real flight dynamics.I really would love PMDG to upgrade their 747 for fsx! David Di Domizio

During final approach on an airliner, there isn't any specifically pitch. It depends on your weight , your CG location, and many others factors like your angle of attack. But i can just say that the best pitch in any situation is the one at which you're at VREF+5 or VREF+5+wind and following your approach path( G/S or VNAV). And i'd like to confirm that yeah it's right, at final you've to increase your pitch of 2 degrees just at 30ft. You learn it during your 747 rating. But that isn't the same for all plane (ex: In the 737 , you flare just at 20ft). And (one more thing) , a new regulation, stipulates that all airliners have to keep thrust powered till the touchdown (not really useful during wind shear condition). That's it folks, if you want to know more about how to fly an airplane, ''JUST BECOME A PILOT'' .

During final approach on an airliner, there isn't any specifically pitch. It depends on your weight , your CG location, and many others factors like your angle of attack. But i can just say that the best pitch in any situation is the one at which you're at VREF+5 or VREF+5+wind and following your approach path( G/S or VNAV). And i'd like to confirm that yeah it's right, at final you've to increase your pitch of 2 degrees just at 30ft. You learn it during your 747 rating. But that isn't the same for all plane (ex: In the 737 , you flare just at 20ft). And (one more thing) , a new regulation, stipulates that all airliners have to keep thrust powered till the touchdown (not really useful during wind shear condition). That's it folks, if you want to know more about how to fly an airplane, ''JUST BECOME A PILOT'' .

 

You have to sign your name on your posts here or they will be deleted. Also, how did you even unearth this three year old thread and decide it was a good idea to start it up again?

Hi , and sorry for that , i hadn't pay attention to the time of posts, and (got it ) will sign my post by next time.

I actually found that on the first occasion I was allowed to taxi, take off and fly an aircraft, that I had no issues at all, because my mind was already trained to be ahead of the aircraft and instrument scanning etc was a breeze.   I really found the whole thing to be just like the sim, obviously minus the physical feel of the sim which is missing.  

 

FS is a powerful tool for teaching you many of the skills you need.   I really can believe that you will be far ahead of those that don't have FS experience, since this is what I found to be the truth to.

 

Kind regards

Nice bump . Lets face it what PMDG is for most of us. The majority don't think these planes are so perfect that you can enter a cockpit and start flying. Most of us love flying, but will never have the oppertunity to even come close to a 777 or 747. Some is too old, some might have medical issues, some financial issues... I can go on. I even heard that less than 10% of all that get certified for a 737 gets a job.

 

What is our option? FSX, P3D and x-plane. Then I first flew a 747 (think it was FS98) I struggled to learn it. But very fast you felt it was not a challenge anymore. I was almost ready to quit this hobby 2008, then I discovered PMDG. Their airplane took this hobby to new dimensions. Somethings are impossible to simulate, but some events are possible, and we want it as real as possible. And that is what PMDG gives us.

Nice bump . Lets face it what PMDG is for most of us. The majority don't think these planes are so perfect that you can enter a cockpit and start flying. Most of us love flying, but will never have the oppertunity to even come close to a 777 or 747. Some is too old, some might have medical issues, some financial issues... I can go on. I even heard that less than 10% of all that get certified for a 737 gets a job.

 

What is our option? FSX, P3D and x-plane. Then I first flew a 747 (think it was FS98) I struggled to learn it. But very fast you felt it was not a challenge anymore. I was almost ready to quit this hobby 2008, then I discovered PMDG. Their airplane took this hobby to new dimensions. Somethings are impossible to simulate, but some events are possible, and we want it as real as possible. And that is what PMDG gives us.

So true..same here..i got hung on to this hobby because of the pmdg 737 for fs2004