Yeah, a decent L-1011 is sorely lacking from the FS world. Very pretty aeroplane, in fact I'm surprised some company hasn't had a decent crack at it yet considering the amount of people who evidently want one judging by forum comments over the years. Best one we currently have is the old Aerosim job.Al

Hi Al,Did you ever get the CS 777 going with another VC? I see on the CS forums that there have been many attempts but everyone there seems to run into some type of security issue when changing or modifying files (such as landing gear missing, or control surfaces don't work). Thanks, Bruce.

Personally, I think it's about time that someone announced a Lockheed TriStar for FSX. Classic airliners have so much more character and style about them than the modern Boeings and Airbus planes, and the TriStar is about as classy a large airliner as you can get!

Yeah, a decent L-1011 is sorely lacking from the FS world. Very pretty aeroplane, in fact I'm surprised some company hasn't had a decent crack at it yet considering the amount of people who evidently want one judging by forum comments over the years. Best one we currently have is the old Aerosim job.Al

I'm with you guys! The L1011 is one of the best-looking airliners ever.

I am holding off until CS releases the VC and will decide on purchasing after I have read enough posts favoring the aircraft.

Hi Al,Did you ever get the CS 777 going with another VC? I see on the CS forums that there have been many attempts but everyone there seems to run into some type of security issue when changing or modifying files (such as landing gear missing, or control surfaces don't work). Thanks, Bruce.

When I initially made the swap it did work, but when I quit FSX and then tried it later, that's when I got some issues, so I'm presuming that something isn't loading up correctly froma complete reboot of FSX. A bit of playing around got it to a point where there were no missing textures at all, but the elevators simply refuse to move and that is clearly some kind of issue blocking them in the sim too because the yoke wasn't moving forward or backward in the VC either, but when you load a different aircraft, there's no problem. Still playing around with it, although since I do have the Aerosim B777 too of course, I'm not desperate to sort it out, however, I'll keep playing around with it to see if I can get the thing going fully.Al

When I initially made the swap it did work, but when I quit FSX and then tried it later, that's when I got some issues, so I'm presuming that something isn't loading up correctly froma complete reboot of FSX. A bit of playing around got it to a point where there were no missing textures at all, but the elevators simply refuse to move and that is clearly some kind of issue blocking them in the sim too because the yoke wasn't moving forward or backward in the VC either, but when you load a different aircraft, there's no problem. Still playing around with it, although since I do have the Aerosim B777 too of course, I'm not desperate to sort it out, however, I'll keep playing around with it to see if I can get the thing going fully.Al

Thanks Al, and hopefully the CS VC isn't too far off.Bruce.

Okay, mystery solved, got it working with the AeroSim 777 VC (elevator fine and all undercarriage visible etc). What you have to do is make sure that whatever you have in the panel, you include these gauges in your Window 00 gauge list (actually it's probably just the CS gauge that is necessary):gauge50=SimIcons!Clock Icon, 16, 111gauge51=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 30, 111gauge52=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 44, 111gauge53=SimIcons!Overhead Icon, 114, 111gauge54=SimIcons!ECU Icon, 100, 111gauge55=SimIcons!Map Icon, 58, 111gauge56=SimIcons!Avionics Icon, 72, 111gauge57=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 86, 111gauge58=CaptainSim.x777.sys!Main,0,0,1,1She rides! - Full VC and everything working in FSX:Al

Did a quick circuit of EGCC, no issues, works perfectly. Back down in one piece, flap, thrust reverser and spoiler animations worked okay, you can see the gear is there of course too:So, to recap, it's a fairly standard VC swap, but you need to ensure that you stick 'CaptainSim.x777.sys.gau' and 'Captain_Sim.x777.tools' in the panel folder, and you need those gauges noted above on my preceding post on 'Window 00' in your panel config file.Happy landings!Al

Hi Al,Interesting info, thanks. Does the AS 777 panel include an FMC, V-Nav, etc?Thanks, Bruce

Nah,the AeroSim stuff is pretty 'lite' to be honest, which is why I slung the ISG avionics into it. The only real advantage of Aerosim's 777 is that it is a pretty nice model that gets decent frame rates. That and the fact that it was an FSX 777 with a VC that came out a while back when there was no other available. That said, the flight model is pretty good, so I'll be tweaking the CS 777's FM with data from the Aerosim one, because by default that CS 777 flies like a brick, whereas the Aerosim is pretty convincing in that regard.AeroSim FSX stuff (such as their 747, 767 and 777) usually have a bit of a 'blag version of an FMC' which works via the radio pop up panel to enable their jets to fly a route automatically in the same manner as an FMC would by loading a flight into that, offering the advantage of not having to learn how to use an FMC for casual simmers, but I've never really bothered with that feature and instead just tend to put the ISG Smiths FMC in there straight away. Their 747-400 is worth buying only if you desperately want a high capacity short haul 400D model of the 747 (which I did), because the PMDG one is of course vastly superior to it in all other respects. Couple that with the fact that Aerosim stuff is pricey for what are essentially pretty 'lite' simulations and you'd have to say they are only worth having if you really want those particular aircraft, although they do make a nice YS-11 turboprop and of course all the Aerosim stuff gets very good frame rates and is easy to get off the deck if you don't want to spend months with a manual. So the reason I like them is they provide a good starting point for chucking in all your own avionics. One or two of them come with some decent Japanese airport scenery as well.The VC on the AeroSim 777 is nice looking but only partially functional; The mode control panel works (I added the ISG LNAV and VNAV buttons to mine in order to get the Smiths FMC to work in the VC because by default those buttons only operate basic autopilot functions), the overhead works a bit (there's a pop up 2D overhead panel that is a bit more functional), most of the centre console is just for show and by default all three CDUs display the radio info (since it has no FMC), but you can change that in the VC to show the ISG FMC (which I have done). The PFD is okay but I swapped it out for the ISG one so I could have the LNAV and VNAV annunciations. The other display screens are okay but they only have a few screens and most of those can only be switched via clicking spots on the screen rather than using the proper cockpit knobs because they are non functional. Most of the EFIS panel works.In short, you can tweak the Aerosim 777 VC up to work as per a real 777 if you have the ISG gauges and are prepared to screw around, but if you don't have the ISG gauges or the Aerosim 777, then it'd be a hell of an expensive way to tart up the CS 777 if you bought those just for that purpose, so unless you have those, you're going to have to really want a 777 with a VC to justify buying the Aerosim one, although buying the ISG gauges is an easier decision since they come in handy all the time for tons of FS aircraft.On the plus side, I just flew the CS 777 with the Aerosim VC and ISG FMC from Manchester to Paris in the VC all the way using proper LNAV and VNAV modes, so if you really can't wait for CS to get their VC done, mixing up all that stuff will let you have a pretty fancy Triple Seven in FSX right now.Al

Hopefully the 777 basepack will be released soon.Imho the AS , the first 777 for fSXZ, is a bit outdated.Therefore I am still using the Posky 777.The exterior is less good as the CS 777 , but still very good.With the help of Alan I was able to get the VC to work a while ago with the ISG panels ( incl FMC ) . In the mean time I added TSS sounds,Shockwave lights and a HUD.This merge makes the waiting less 'painfull'...

I wouldn't so much say the Aerosim FSX Triple Seven is dated, rather that it is a conservative effort from Aerosim. They say as much themselves in the name they gave it - 'First Step For FSX' - which is a remarkably forthright admission from a developer. Japanese being what it is, i.e. not always translating perfectly literally, I always took that to mean something along the lines of: 'we've done a lot of FS9 stuff, but this is our first FSX effort guys, so don't expect it to be massively complicated and bear with us'. In any case it flies well, moreover, the scenery of Shimojishima Airport which comes with their FSX 777 is worth having and does somewhat offset the price tag for a 'lite' airliner in my opinion.I agree that incorporating the TSS sounds does add a lot to any FS Triple Seven you have (TSS are one of the largely unsung heroes of the FS world in my book), in fact the TSS 777 sound set is a massive improvement where the Aerosim one is concerned, so I certainly recommend it if anyone has the Aerosim 777. Even so, that might just possibly turn out to be a redundant purchase given that one or two FS add-ons have ended up incorporating TSS sound packs into the retail product; i.e. CS might throw some royalties at TSS and use their sounds. The SimCheck Airbus A300 is one payware FS jetliner where that happened, although I think I might be right in saying that the standalone TSS A300 sound set has a few additional sounds that are not in the SimCheck Airbus, although certainly some of them are the same files.What I'll be looking forward to with the CS Triple Seven when that gets a proper native VC for it, is things like a weather radar display incorporated into an MFD, hopefully as a pop up 2D panel too. I have considered transplanting the CS 757's radar-equipped MFD into my 777s, but never really tried it because I tend to use the CS standalone weather radar (also highly recommended) as a pop up anyway so that I can look at it more closely.I know a few people don't like FS weather radars because they don't work absolutely like a real weather radar does, but then again the engines on an FS aeroplane don't really have fuel sloshing around in them either, so a radar on the MFDs, even one which isn't totally authentic, is in my opinion one of the things all FS airliners that have them for real should have in FS. In fact that was the only reason I was considering getting the Wilco Airbus 'Evolution' upgrade, even though I think they are a bit cheeky in charging people for what is essentially a glorified patch. That's something that batted the ball right back into Flight Sim Labs' court LOL, so fingers are still firmly crossed on that score, unless that is, ISG get a few more Airbus gauges out of the door!Al

With the help of Alan I was able to get the VC to work a while ago with the ISG panels ( incl FMC ) . In the mean time I added TSS sounds,Shockwave lights and a HUD.

This is what I did as well - the hud. Where did you get the hud ? I'd like to add it myself.ThanksVic

There are a few HUD gauges in the Avsim file library - try a search on 'Generic Head Up Display' - or, any aircraft you have that has a HUD could donate the gauge, or, if you have CS Weapon, that'll add a HUD with one click from the installer, and you'll have missiles rockets and guns too LOL, perfect for those 'freedom bird' flights out of Kandahar when you want to get a bit proactive...Al

This is what I did as well - the hud. Where did you get the hud ? I'd like to add it myself.ThanksVic

What I did was use the HUD from the Fa-18.Here my panel.cfg entry ://--------------------------------------------------------[Window02] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=456,378position=4visible=0ident=HUDwindow_size= 0.600, 0.650window_pos= 0.200, 0.300gauge00=fa-18!hud_2d, 0,0,456,378,4

I wouldn't so much say the Aerosim FSX Triple Seven is dated, rather that it is a conservative effort from Aerosim. They say as much themselves in the name they gave it - 'First Step For FSX' - which is a remarkably forthright admission from a developer. Al

What I meant is that AS uses lower resolutions for several important panel part textures like the MCP and CDU's : 512x512.Even Posky uses 1024x1024.I have the AS B777-200 and when using the Posky B777-200/300 it is like getting in a totally different cockpit environment.Of coarse they did a nice job for being the first with a B777-200 for FSX.