May 22, 201115 yr Hi All,When should we use the RADIO and BARO settings on the Minimums selection knobs??Regards,Tristan Best Regards, Tristan Marchent - UK fATPL(A) - EMB 195 First Officer System: Intel i7-6700k Skylake CPU, 4 Cores (4.0-4.2GHz, Overlocked 20%), Asus Z170 PRO GAMING MBO, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 8GB, Corsair Hydro H80i V2 CPU Cooler, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit (512GB M.2 PCIe SSD), Prepar3D V4.5 (1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD), 4TB SSHD Hybrid Drive, EVGA GQ 80 PLUS Gold 850W Modular PSU
May 22, 201115 yr It can vary by the terrain as you approach based on the policy for that airport. The radio altimeter reads above ground altitude based on reflected radio waves similar to but not radar technology. It can some times give false readings due to a cross depression or hill on an approach that is safe to ignore. It does not depend on your setting altimeter pressure and is more accurate at close range. It is that device used in an autoland to control flare and contact within the last 200 feet or so.BARO means barometer setting minimum based on MSL altitude. It is affected by your pressure setting. It is not accurate enough for an autoland but the radio altimeter is automaticly used for that.Approach plates give both MSL minimums and AGL minimums (in parenthesis) so depending on the approach type (CAT I, II, III) in order of advancing precision you use the proper device.
May 22, 201115 yr When should we use the RADIO and BARO settings on the Minimums selection knobs??Tristan,Contrary to previous reply it is really very simple and it has nothing to do with airport's "policy" or how terrain "vary".ILS CAT II or III - use RADIO,for all other approaches use BARO Michael J.
May 23, 201115 yr I use them as Ron discribed. Depends on what approach I'm executing and whether the terrain is flat or unlevelled. If the approach requires RADIO, I use RADIO. If the approach requires BARO, I use BARO.If the terrain is unlevelled before the runway, with hills for example, or if the runway is much above the terrain covered on the approach, like in Funchal (LPMA), I use BARO, if I have a uniform terrain in my approach path, I use RADIO. Matheus Mafra
May 23, 201115 yr I use them as Ron discribed. You can do whatever you want, it is only a simulation. But in real world flying what you describe is illegal, doesn't agree with basic IFR procedures. Michael J.
May 23, 201115 yr You can do whatever you want, it is only a simulation. But in real world flying what you describe is illegal, doesn't agree with basic IFR procedures.May be, but I didn't know how they are used in the real world. Michael, could you also explain what is the utility of QFE altimeter? Edited May 23, 201115 yr by barfra1995 Matheus Mafra
May 23, 201115 yr It helps to read posts. Ok, I am a real world pilot, IFR rated and explained it in post #3. Not enough? Kyle also provided an equivalent explanation.BTW, it belongs to basic aeronautical knowledge, I suggest a google search if all else fails. Michael J.
May 23, 201115 yr Oh, didn't know you are a pilot. Sorry for that. It's because your explanation seemed so simple. I was expecting something... you know... a little more complex :(. Matheus Mafra
May 23, 201115 yr Commercial Member Alas, it's when seemingly simple things are made complex that something's not right. Kyle Rodgers
May 23, 201115 yr Hey Tristan. Its pretty simple. If the minimums on the approach pate has an "RA" beside the altitude you use Radio Altimeter. Simple right?JackColwill
May 23, 201115 yr Isn't using RA when you're supposed to be on BARO what got the Polish president killed?Use RA if the chart says RA in the minimums. (Cat II and Cat III) You don't get to choose one or the other on personal preference. Matt Cee
May 23, 201115 yr Isn't using RA when you're supposed to be on BARO what got the Polish president killed?Use RA if the chart says RA in the minimums. (Cat II and Cat III) You don't get to choose one or the other on personal preference.The polish president was more likely killed because (they forced?) the pilot to land in conditions he should have diverted fromBert Van Bulck
May 23, 201115 yr Author Hey Tristan. Its pretty simple. If the minimums on the approach pate has an "RA" beside the altitude you use Radio Altimeter. Simple right?JackColwillThanks Jack and Everyone!Its just I am usig the iFly 737 in readiness for the NGX and the BARO and RA only go up in tens... SO my Decision was 188' feet last night and therefore couldnt set that exactly, could only set 180 or 190 to get the closest.... Thanks all for clarrification! Best Regards, Tristan Marchent - UK fATPL(A) - EMB 195 First Officer System: Intel i7-6700k Skylake CPU, 4 Cores (4.0-4.2GHz, Overlocked 20%), Asus Z170 PRO GAMING MBO, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 8GB, Corsair Hydro H80i V2 CPU Cooler, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit (512GB M.2 PCIe SSD), Prepar3D V4.5 (1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD), 4TB SSHD Hybrid Drive, EVGA GQ 80 PLUS Gold 850W Modular PSU
May 23, 201115 yr Some airlines dictate using RA on CAT I approaches. I have an article describing an approach into a Spanish airport where an RA warning was suggested to be ignored for that specific approach.
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