May 27, 201115 yr This morning just before 11, KLM's newest 737-8K2 PH-BCB arrived at EHAM.I was lucky enough to be at the hangar where it arrived and was able to request the captain for the used flightplan.For those of you wanting to replicate this flight once the NGX has been delivered, here's the flightplan.I removed the parts where I feel I'm probably not allowed to share it with you. For those of you not to familiar with reading a flightplan, I made the actual route bold.The flight was originally planned to EGPF for a fuel stop and during the flight (they had favourable winds and flightlevels), the flight was re-cleared direct to EHAM.KLM 7453 KBFI/EGPF 26.MAY.2011/2230z [ printed: 26MAY/2040z ]PREDEPARTURE ATC CLEARANCE:..--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------FLIGHTPLAN STATUS: FINALMEL/ CDL ITEMS : NO INFO AVBLROUTE / FLT LEVEL: MINIMUM FUEL TRACK AT OPTIMUM LEVELSROUTE APPROVED BY EDMONTON & REYKJAVIK CENTEREZFW BASED ON OEW 41552 + 7 CREW/PAXWEATHER : POSSIBLE LGT/MOD CAT IN CLIMB FL320-FL360FUEL : FULL TANKS, BASED ON FUELDENSITY 0,8127KG/LDISPATCH ADVICE : INFLIGHT REDISPATCH TO EHAM FROM RATSUWX CONDITIONS VIS 9999 CLOUDS SCT030COST INDEX : 8 = MINIMUM FUEL CONSUMPTIONPERFORMANCE : RTOW MAX STRUCTURALMISCELLANEOUS : ROUTE COVERED BY ERA'S:KBFI: RWY13R, MINIMA 1SM-300FT - 60 MINUTESCYEG: RWY12, MINIMA 1/2SM-200FT - 60 MINUTESCYYQ: RWY33, MINIMA 3/4SM-300FT - 60 MINUTESCYFB: RWY35, MINIMA 3/4SM-200FT - 96 MINUTESBIKF: RWY20, MINIMA 550M-200FT - 96 MINUTESEGPF: RWY05, MINIMA 550M-200FT - 60 MINUTESLOWEST OAT EN-ROUTE IS -56CACCEPT FLIGHTPLAN BY ACARSPLSE CALL DISPATCHER IN CASE OF CHG IN FOB (MORE OR LESS)--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------OFP 5/0/1 26MAY11/20:06 WX PROG 2618 2700 2706OBS 2612 2612 2612KL7453 737-800 WI KBFI/BFI EGPF/GLA CRZ SYS CI 8KLM7453 PHBCB 2230/2236 0718/0722 GND DIST 393526MAY11 CTOT:.... STA 0830 AIR DIST 3831AVG W/C T012MAXIMUM ZFW 61688 LAW 66360 TOW 73708 AVG ISA P09ESTIMATED ZFW 42200 LAW 45243 TOW 63145 F-F FACTOR +1.0ACTUAL ZFW ...... LAW ...... TOW ......--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------TRIP 17902 0842 ..... .....CONT 3% 537 0018 ..... .....ALTN 835 0022 EGPK ..... ..... ....FINAL 988 0030 ..... .....ADDNL 683 0023 ..... .....PLN TOF 20945 1015ALTN DIFF .... ....PLN TOF .... ....EXTRA .... .... TOF 20945 .... TAXI 205 .... BLOCK 21150 ....--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------COMMANDERS NAME: SIGNATURE:--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------NON-ETOPS: 60 MIN COVERAGE--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------FROM: KBFI ELEV +17 TO: EGPF ELEV +26 ALTN: EGPK ELEV +65FLT: KL7453 / KLM7453 AVG ISA: P09CO-ROUTE: DEFRTE AVG TT: 81FMC-RES FUEL: 1823 AVG W/C: T012CRZ ALT: 390 FL310 307/051CI: 8 FL200 312/037FL100 304/021DEFRTE KBFI/13R DCT IWACK J503 YNY DCT N53W115 DCT N5530W11000DCT N59W100 DCT N6130W09000 DCT N63W080 DCT KENKI DCT N65W060 DCTN65W050 DCT N65W040 DCT N64W030 DCT N63W020 DCT RATSU UN610 STNUN615 ORSUM A1D GOW EGPF/05--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------INFLT RATSU UP61 BAMRA UP60 FORTY UL7 PELET UL74 EHAM/18REnjoy! Regards, Frank van der Werff
May 27, 201115 yr wow, and he just gave you the plans. How lucky are you? I wish I could walk up to a captain and say "can I have the flight plans?" Thanks for uploading and certainly will fly that route Joe Barton
May 27, 201115 yr Author wow, and he just gave you the plans. How lucky are you? I wish I could walk up to a captain and say "can I have the flight plans?" Thanks for uploading and certainly will fly that route :( That's the advantage when you know the people involved :( Regards, Frank van der Werff
May 27, 201115 yr Very interesting! I read the PH-BCB was delivered today and when I searched for the Flight on FlightAware.com, is said KLM7453 was routed to Glasgow. After this I searched for the Flight on Flightradar24.com. Here it showed the KLM7453 flying over the North sea, past Scotland. So I was wondering why it had 'diverted'. And Casper.com showed it landed on RWY 22 at EHAM. Thank you for clearing this up and giving this awesome information. I will definitely simulate this flight to fly my NGX home! Henk de Vries
May 27, 201115 yr Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Especially that they used the lat/lon points that early instead of AWYs, impressive. Does it say how much fuel they needed at RATSU in order to get the reclearance?
May 27, 201115 yr Does anyone have more info about Cost Index numbers please?Best Regards,Bert Van Bulck
May 27, 201115 yr The PH-BCB isn't a 'K2'. It wasn't ordered by KLM and it isn't owned by KLM. It is bought with a lease structure.The PH-BCB is owned my CIT lease corp. So, it's a Boeing 737-8BK. @Frank, do you know what options are chosen by KLM? Type of MCP, standby instruments, etc...@Bert, I've read somewhere that KLM uses CI 35 on its european flight. But I can imagine they used a more economical setting.@PMDG, I really hope you will do the PH-BCB for the 737-800. The paint is the same as all other KLM 737's, just a different reg and names underneath the cockpit. Also, I really hope the 'Boeing-bare-metal-coating' will be available for all the body types... Henk de Vries
May 27, 201115 yr Does anyone have more info about Cost Index numbers please? @Bert, I've read somewhere that KLM uses CI 35 on its european flight. But I can imagine they used a more economical setting.Well, it's all there, isn't it...COST INDEX : 8 = MINIMUM FUEL CONSUMPTION:(
May 27, 201115 yr Author The PH-BCB isn't a 'K2'. It wasn't ordered by KLM and it isn't owned by KLM. It is bought with a lease structure.The PH-BCB is owned my CIT lease corp. So, it's a Boeing 737-8BK. @Frank, do you know what options are chosen by KLM? Type of MCP, standby instruments, etc...@Bert, I've read somewhere that KLM uses CI 35 on its european flight. But I can imagine they used a more economical setting.@PMDG, I really hope you will do the PH-BCB for the 737-800. The paint is the same as all other KLM 737's, just a different reg and names underneath the cockpit. Also, I really hope the 'Boeing-bare-metal-coating' will be available for all the body types...Henk, I'm not sure about the designator. Yes, it's owned by CIT, but it was specifically ordered for KLM with a KLM spec. I will check when I'm back in the office next week (my direct colleague was the leader of the acceptance team). MCP is the Collins one. Since BXW KLM didn't get Honeywell MCP's anymore. In fact; I don't think you can still order a Honeywell MCP, but I might be wrong.Not sure what you mean with standby instruments. This bird is equipped with an ISFD, if that's what you mean. Regards, Frank van der Werff
May 27, 201115 yr Author Very interesting, thanks for sharing. Especially that they used the lat/lon points that early instead of AWYs, impressive. Does it say how much fuel they needed at RATSU in order to get the reclearance? I don't have the papers with me now (left them at the office), but I think the minimum fuel at RATSU was set at 4.2 tons (metric). 2.8 for the flight to EHAM and 1.4 for reserve. I don't know what the actual figure was at RATSU. Regards, Frank van der Werff
May 27, 201115 yr Very cool, Frank. Thanks for sharing. Going to have to give this flight a try at some point.
June 23, 201114 yr Hello,A -700 on it's way this time:(FPL-KLM7453-IX-B737/M-SDFGIJPRWXY/S-KBFI2100-N0432F370 IWACK J503 YDC DCT 51N115W/N0440F390 5230N11000W 57N100W/N0425F390 60N090W/N0448F410 62N080W DCT NALDI DCT 65N060W/M075F410 66N050W 66N040W 65N030W DCT GIMLI DCT KEF DCT ALDAN DCT 6213N01500W DCT RATSU UP61 DEVBI/N0437F410 UP61 BAMRA UP60 FORTY UL7 PELET UL74 TOPPA-EHAM0942 EHRD-EET/KZSE0007 CZVR0016 CZEG0450 CZWG0113 CZUL0337 BIRD0457 EGPX0753 EGTT0911 EHAA0926 REG/PHBGQ OPR/KLM DAT/V DOF/110622 RVR/200 RMK/TCAS EQPD NO HF) Mykeale Beensan
June 23, 201114 yr I think by stand by instruments he means if the stand by ones next to the Nav Display are steam gauges or the newer digital ones Dylan Leonard
June 23, 201114 yr See this page for the Flightplan Also!You can find all Realworld flightplans on this page!http://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM7453/history/20110526/2230Z/KBFI/EGPFRegards,Frits Happy Flyings, Frits van Laarhoven http://downloads.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/Boeing777_Banner_Pilot.jpg
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