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Hi guys,I'm thinking about buying a new videocard for my pc. I'm doubing between the ATI Radeon 6950 1gb/2gb or the Nvidia GTX560TI 1gb.Which brand is better for fsx? Thanks!AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE @ 3.78gb ddr3 @ 1333EVGA GTX260 core 216 SC

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Hi guys,I'm thinking about buying a new videocard for my pc. I'm doubing between the ATI Radeon 6950 1gb/2gb or the Nvidia GTX560TI 1gb.Which brand is better for fsx? Thanks!AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE @ 3.78gb ddr3 @ 1333EVGA GTX260 core 216 SC
Nvidia, hands down. I'd recommend EVGA

Kenneth Weir

My Saitek yoke mod

 

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8GB Gskill CAS7

2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory

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ATI is devil's spawn. :(Stay Away :(

Vin Scimone

Precision Manuals Development Group

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ATI is devil's spawn. :(Stay Away :(
It isn't very often that I actually LOL after reading a forum post, but this one did it to me!

Kenneth Weir

My Saitek yoke mod

 

i7 2600k @ 4.7

8GB Gskill CAS7

2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory

Win7x64

Definitely nVidia.Get this one:http://www.tweaktown.com/pressrelease/4932/gainward_first_released_4_models_of_geforce_gainward_gtx_560_ti/index.htmlTake the 2GB version! Overclock it and you´ll have the power of a GTX 570!!

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Kind regards from Austria

 

Matthias Fischer

 

 

My FS9 computer:

 

CPU: Intel Core2 Duo [email protected]

Mainboard: Asus P5B, LGA 775, DDR2

RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800

Graphic Card: Sapphire Radeon HD3870, 512MB GDDR4

OS: Windows XP SP3

Well this makes me a bit nervous... I built my new system about 3 months ago using a ATI HD5770, and have had no issues running FSX. Did I miss something?

Ryan Syferd (KSEA)



 

Well this makes me a bit nervous... I built my new system about 3 months ago using a ATI HD5770, and have had no issues running FSX. Did I miss something?
It's a matter of all other things being equal, nvidia cards generally perform better & have fewer glitches than ATI when it comes to FSX. I think it's mainly a driver issue. Vin or Ryan can post more detailed info, but that the basics of it.If you're happy with the ATI card & it doesn't cause any issues I wouldn't change it. When building a new system you might consider nvidia cards though...

Kenneth Weir

My Saitek yoke mod

 

i7 2600k @ 4.7

8GB Gskill CAS7

2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory

Win7x64

Well this makes me a bit nervous... I built my new system about 3 months ago using a ATI HD5770, and have had no issues running FSX. Did I miss something?
Don't jinx it! :( Seriously though, I had a ATI 4870 before my GTX480 and the only real problem I had was the inferior (compared to Nvidia in FSX) Anti-Aliasing. But I only found that out after upgrading, and the 4870 was so old by then that its age was probably the biggest factor, not its brand. I also upgraded to a i7 950 at the same time so I can't really tell. But if you don't have any problems, don't worry, they'll show themselves soon enough.Lol just kidding, its working fine for you, what more is there to say. :(

William Green

Case: CM HAF 922 PSU: Corsair HX 1000W Mobo: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe CPU: Intel i7 2600K 4.8Ghz HT Off GPU: MSI GTX 770 Lightning 2GB RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB 2133Mhz (9-11-10-28-1T) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 Soundcard: SB XtremeGamer PCI Screen: EIZO Foris FG2421 "240"hz OS: Win7 64

It's a matter of all other things being equal, nvidia cards generally perform better & have fewer glitches than ATI when it comes to FSX. Vin or Ryan can post more detailed info, but that the basics of it.If you're happy with the ATI card & it doesn't cause any issues I wouldn't change it. When building a new system you might consider nvidia cards though...
I will for now on. Funny thing is that I've built several systems over the past several years, and have always used nvidia cards. This was my first build with an ATI card as it was on sale and I figured I'd try something new. I'm running ORBX scenerys, REX with some high end aircraft and have been running pretty smooth so far but I haven't loaded it down with the NGX yet....(maybe "loading it down" is the wrong term....challenged it sounds better!)..

Ryan Syferd (KSEA)



 

I upgraded my comp with a ATI 6950 recently and never experienced a problem?As soon as you have CCC setup correct, FSX runs flawless

Regards,

Emil E. Nielsen

 

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I upgraded my comp with a ATI 6950 recently and never experienced a problem?As soon as you have CCC setup correct, FSX runs flawless
What are your current settings just out of curiosity?

Ryan Syferd (KSEA)



 

I will for now on. Funny thing is that I've built several systems over the past several years, and have always used nvidia cards. This was my first build with an ATI card as it was on sale and I figured I'd try something new. I'm running ORBX scenerys, REX with some high end aircraft and have been running pretty smooth so far but I haven't loaded it down with the NGX yet....(maybe "loading it down" is the wrong term....challenged it sounds better!)..
If you're happy with performance on the other PMDG aircraft I wouldn't worry too much. If I recall correctly, it's expected to be somewhere around their JS41 or MD-11 in terms of framerates. I only have the 744, so I don't know how that converts for me...

Kenneth Weir

My Saitek yoke mod

 

i7 2600k @ 4.7

8GB Gskill CAS7

2x GTX580 SLI Surround + GT520 Accessory

Win7x64

I had before SLI Geforce GTX 275, sometimes I had problems and it was running good(frame rates)!But now I have ATI redeon 4 GB D5 6990 serie and now, its running like a monster. No problems no issues, always oke. Also Frame rates are perfect.Quality is depending on speed and memory of the videocard.I think ATI is indispensable :(

Volkan

 

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I had before SLI Geforce GTX 275, sometimes I had problems and it was running good(frame rates)!But now I have ATI redeon 4 GB D5 6990 serie and now, its running like a monster. No problems no issues, always oke. Also Frame rates are perfect.Quality is depending on speed and memory of the videocard.I think ATI is indispensable :(
I picked up the 6970. Though not as outrageously fast as the 6990, I feel the exact same way as you do! :)

Cameron Caldwell

CPL (A)

King Air 200 Pilot

 

 

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There's two main issues in FSX with AMD/ATI right now as I see it:1. Their architecture isn't conducive to running the older shaders that FSX is based on. FSX largely uses Shader 2.0 for stuff like clouds, water etc - the Radeon architecture just doesn't handle those as well as Nvidia's does. There's been a long standing problem with major slowdowns in FSX on these cards when there's a lot of clouds onscreen and stuff like that. This can be remedied somewhat by using ******* Altuve's Shader 3.0 mod, but it doesn't completely solve the issue.2. Image quality & driver issues - the Catalyst driver doesn't have the high quality combined AA modes that the Nvidia cards do. They do have a full-on supersampling mode, but it is very heavy on performance even on the latest cards. The Nvidia modes can combine fast multisample AA with a lower resolution version of supersampling to produce something that looks almost as good as full supersampling, but without the huge performance hit.AMD also has a set of long standing issues with the driver and FSX - stuff like weird lines/seams through GDI+ gauges, problems with Vsync and forced AA etc. I had a 4870 two cards ago and after contacting their driver team in my official capacity with PMDG, I was effectively told that they did not have any plans to look at FSX issues because it's an old game with a very small niche of players. I thanked them for their honesty and told them I'd be recommending only Nvidia cards to simmers from then on, which is what I've done.

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