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Benjamin J

Does my Singapore look okay?

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Hey guys,Been experimenting with Singapore lately. Problem is, I'm not sure if my Singapore, shown below, looks the way it should. singapore1.jpgIt's that shoreline at the front of the shot. Addon sceneries I use are SceneryTech's Asia landclass and FSGenesis World mesh, but that should be the only active sceneries affecting Singapore. I also have Samsoft's The Very Singapore and ImagineSim's WSSS, but none of them are active. Now, the reason I ask if Singapore looks okay in that shot, is because I have some slight problems. For exmaple, that shoreline I mentioned is way off, it seems. IS's WSSS has a huge chunk of photoscenery there that now ends in water without a shoreline. As amatter of fact, I can see rolling waves through IS's photoscenery along the shorline you see in the above shot. Also, autogen is displayed over IS's photoscenery on the chunnk of land to the right of the airport.So, I'm not too sure what's going on, but it's very annoying. Please tell me all is okay, or that there's an easy way to fix this? I'm getting fed up now with all FSX's little quircks that for some reaosn always appear right at the spot where I want to fly.

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So, I'm not too sure what's going on, but it's very annoying. Please tell me all is okay, or that there's an easy way to fix this? I'm getting fed up now with all FSX's little quircks that for some reaosn always appear right at the spot where I want to fly.
Hi Benjamin,I'm reading your post and wish I could give more help at the moment. The best I'm doing after I post this is to fly around Singapore with my setup to see what I experience. I have the SceneryTech Asia land as well, but only using the default mesh for the Singapore region.I'm not sure why ImagineSim's WSSS is having the problem with the shoreline, but I'm not sure if the problem lies with the IS's airport, a clash with your other add-ons or FSX.Though it sounds like it is a bunch of little issues compounding to make you exhausted with FSX, hang in there Benjamin. :( We are all here to help.I'll report back in a few minutes.

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That coastline and the buildings etc is not an accurate depiction. This is what it would look like if we could get some decent scenery for there:SINGAPORE.jpgAl

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with the SceneryTech Asia landclass on and default mesh and no auto gen I got something similar. So I what is in your picture is ok to that point,

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Good to know that default FSX should be okay then. In that case, I'll continue looking for possible problems. Thanks for the help so far! Yeah, I'll hang in there, don't worry wink.gif FSX is running quite well overall at the moment, so I see no reason to suddenly stop using it.

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So there's another thing in my Singapore that seems strange, namely a river in the sea. Look here:2011-6-27_12-25-12-497.jpgIs this normal, or is there something wrong with my FSX installation *again*?By the way, Al, where did you get that photoscenery?

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So there's another thing in my Singapore that seems strange, namely a river in the sea. Look here:Is this normal, or is there something wrong with my FSX installation *again*?By the way, Al, where did you get that photoscenery?
Hmmm, I have the same squiggle in my scenery, not sure what to make of it.

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Hmmm, I have the same squiggle in my scenery, not sure what to make of it.
It's supposed to be a river, but it's badly placed and thus lies in the water instead of ending at the shoreline, where it should end. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that this badly-placed river is standard!

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Its a sea monster snake. Its part of the FSX's living world feature.
LMAO.gifIt´s just FSX doing it´s very normal thing, a mediocre, unfinished, embarrasing etc. Flightsim!Wait for MS Flight, we´ll get updated mediocre, unfinished, embarrasing etc. anno 2014 Flightsim!

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LMAO.gifIt´s just FSX doing it´s very normal thing, a mediocre, unfinished, embarrasing etc. Flightsim!Wait for MS Flight, we´ll get updated mediocre, unfinished, embarrasing etc. anno 2014 Flightsim!
I guess you're right... but it's sad that such an error would be at one of the world's biggest airports! Thanks all for the posts. I'm releaved that the problem is in FSX in general, not just my installation.

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I guess you're right... but it's sad that such an error would be at one of the world's biggest airports! Thanks all for the posts. I'm releaved that the problem is in FSX in general, not just my installation.
Its probably easy to fix using the tools in SbuilderX. In fact, any of the guys who post in the Scenery Design forum, could probably instruct you how to fix it or perhaps they could make a fix themselves and post it. I am good at using some features of SBuilderX, but not sure which tool would be used to fix the "snake".

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This is a problem seen from time to time in FSX. FSX implements two different water area definitions (hydro poly). One is designed for display in the GPS and the other in drawing the actual scenery. I guess the idea the GPS polys were to be simpler, to reduce the processing load on the GPS. I don't the actual implementation was fully completed. At any rate, in some cases it seems the dataset used for generating the GPS water polys is more accurate than that used for the scenery polys. At WSSS the stream line is accurate if you look at the GPS poly.scott s..

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If you think this area looks bad you should try flying an area where FSX places next to no airports. Northern Manitoba comes immediately to mind; it is so bad that when I released my freeware "Manitoba Floatplane Bases" I had users complain about the absolutely horrid mesh errors (which of coarse had nothing to do with my scenery which had no mesh adjustments in it). Unfortunately the northern parts of Canada, that are bush plane territory, are extremely annoying to fly around in with its multitude of glaring errors!Regards, Mike Mann

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I just noticed you guys run some really blue looking water there, almost like Cancun.I just compared and mine looks like this.

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I just noticed you guys run some really blue looking water there, almost like Cancun.I just compared and mine looks like this.
I'd love that color, but have no idea how to make it. REX isn't really intuitive when it comes to water color... Could you perhaps give some advice on how to make nice water colors? For FS2004 I had Zinertek's Ultimate Water Advanced and that water color is probably the most realistic I have ever seen. Alas, there is no FSX version of that product.

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I'd love that color, but have no idea how to make it. REX isn't really intuitive when it comes to water color... Could you perhaps give some advice on how to make nice water colors? For FS2004 I had Zinertek's Ultimate Water Advanced and that water color is probably the most realistic I have ever seen. Alas, there is no FSX version of that product.
Very simple actually. Just go into the REX UI and into the Theme Creation/Tropical water window. Then in the drop down select a base theme that you want and use the sliders on the right to adjust the plankton, saturation, brightness, and contrast. Once you get a color you like a window will popup letting you save it as a name you want, then once back into the main Theme Creation screen you install it.More info can be found on page 29 thru 33 in the instruction manual that comes with REX.Word of caution though, before you experiment I would recommend you UNCHECK all your options in the Options Tab except for the Tropical Water one. Otherwise when you press install it will spend a lot of time redoing your clouds, sky, and all the other stuff. Just doing the tropical water will take REX about 5 minutes to complete.I've found it best to use a tropical water texture that isn't so "fantastic" looking and sticks out like a sore thumb. In other areas I have used SBuilderX to make better water class assignment that way the sim doesn't call for such bright water where there shouldn't be.

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I actually thought you were referencing the ocean water color. I don't really like that it's so blue, and I would rather have it a bit of grey/blue hue, like Zinertek's Ultimate Water Advanced did. However, I have found no good way to replicate it.

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I actually thought you were referencing the ocean water color. I don't really like that it's so blue, and I would rather have it a bit of grey/blue hue, like Zinertek's Ultimate Water Advanced did. However, I have found no good way to replicate it.
I was referening to the water color.You said "I'd love that color, but have no idea how to make it. REX isn't really intuitive when it comes to water color... Could you perhaps give some advice on how to make nice water colors?"And as a response I told you how I made it?In the case of that area, FSX's waterclass is calling for the tropical water textures and I explained how to make the water look like it does in my screen shot. Unless you want to actually place new water class files yourself, the easiest thing to do is fix the tropical water textures that that water class calls for and you will get a global improvement rather than just an isolated improvement that you get from changing the water class files for a specific area.Once you understand how FSX decides to call each water texture, then you can go about changing the textures to colors that you prefer for that type of class.

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I'm sorry, maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. You are talking about the tropical water color. I was talking about the ocean water color. I changed my tropical water colors per your instructions, so thanks for that, but it's mainly the ocean water colors that I wanted to change to a grey/blue hue. And it's also the ocean water color that I think was so very realistic in Zinertek's Ultimate Water Advanced. Sadly, REX only provides us with one base ocean water color for us to fiddle with ("Ocean Blue" it's called, if I'm not mistaken). It's this color that I don't like very much and would have liked to see being more grey.

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You should be able to do it. REX allows you to customized the colors. Just use the sliders and experiment.Save time by only installing the appropriate textures.

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I don't know how you guys can live with scenery that looks that bad.
With all due respect, but why do you think we invest in third party sceneries...?!

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