To each his own I guess, Ill be one of those few that wont use the HGS that much, as like I stated above, I’ll primarily fly WJA flights, who doesn’t have the HGS system. It will be a treat when I simulate other airlines that do though. My FS motto, "If its not happening in the real world, Im not doing it" I only fly flights, routes, aircraft and airlines that are operating in the real world including the scheduled departure times. I think its pretty neat that we will have several avionics options along with several technical related options as well.

Except to spice things up on occasion, I fly real city pairs and airlines for the most part. So I can fly more of the kinds of flights I want to, I have to I take the liberty of subbing out equipment a lot though to match the addons I actually own (and consider to be flyable). I've been flying the MD-11 a lot lately on just about any widebody route it can handle, which is most everything but the longest 747 and 380 routes, which I don't have time to fly anyway.

Ryan, is there anyway for us easily to determine carbon vs. steel?

Not that I know of - it's the pads themselves. I'm assuming you guys have steel there - the carbon are very expensive and it's my understanding they're using by airlines that do a ton of very short segments to short fields. ie, I would assume the GOL SFP aircraft probably have them.

Not that I know of - it's the pads themselves. I'm assuming you guys have steel there - the carbon are very expensive and it's my understanding they're using by airlines that do a ton of very short segments to short fields. ie, I would assume the GOL SFP aircraft probably have them.

Hmm :( If that is the case I wouldn't be surprized if our -600s have the carbons, we tend to put those in our smaller runway markets out west like YMM, YQU, YKA, YLW, YYJ, YXS. But with that said as well the -600 is the smallest and lightest aircraft to begin with so I cant say for certain. Im going to have to investigate this, Ill be sure to post the results when I find out. I'll also be glad to upload the WJ specific options loadout file once I see the full set of options in that FMC. I hope others do the same for airlines they might know more about :)

The PMDG-made liveries are going to come with a basic representation of the options each airline has - it's not going to be 100% perfectly accurate though, please don't expect that. Some of the options we've modeled you'd need a real employee of the airline to tell you about, you can't always tell just from pics/vids. Nothing will be grossly off (ie eyebrows where the real plane painted doesn't have them, PFD/ND when the plane is EFIS/MAP in real life etc) but please don't expect us to know if they have the double derate option, carbon vs. steel brakes etc just from some photos on a.net...The good thing here is that the config files can be modified and shared - if a pilot for X airlines knows the exact options loadout, he/she can create it and upload the file to the library here, you can then replace our file with that one and you'll have it perfect. If I become aware of more accurate files, I'll probably just update our livery package for that airline to have the more accurate set - over time this will result in most of them being very close.

Hi Mr. Mariarz,I wonder, could I somehow get the DELTA exterior with the UNITED inside guages (?) I love the guages in the United 800 NGX, not so much in the Delta version. Since I joined DeltaVA, I prefer to use their exterior livery, but darned if I want to be flying those antique dash displays...from the MCP on down, United Livery is far and away what I want on the INSIDE of the cockpit. Can you give me a tip how to make it so?Thank you.Robert.

Hi Mr. Mariarz,I wonder, could I somehow get the DELTA exterior with the UNITED inside guages (?) I love the guages in the United 800 NGX, not so much in the Delta version. Since I joined DeltaVA, I prefer to use their exterior livery, but darned if I want to be flying those antique dash displays...from the MCP on down, United Livery is far and away what I want on the INSIDE of the cockpit. Can you give me a tip how to make it so?Thank you.Robert.

I'm not the person you addressed the question to, but you can change your plane's equipment options via the menu in the CDU. The PMDG introduction to the NGX manual (or whatever the exact title is) has more details on that.

I'm not the person you addressed the question to, but you can change your plane's equipment options via the menu in the CDU. The PMDG introduction to the NGX manual (or whatever the exact title is) has more details on that.

Yes, thanks for that, I was aware. Unfortunately, while I can switch the MCP's (Collins vs Honeywell) I am not finding a way to get rid of the less-attractive main ND display gauges on the main dash panel below the MCP in favor of the ones on the United airlines livery which I find much more informative and better-looking :Peace:Robert

The PMDG-made liveries are going to come with a basic representation of the options each airline has - it's not going to be 100% perfectly accurate though, please don't expect that. Some of the options we've modeled you'd need a real employee of the airline to tell you about, you can't always tell just from pics/vids. Nothing will be grossly off (ie eyebrows where the real plane painted doesn't have them, PFD/ND when the plane is EFIS/MAP in real life etc) but please don't expect us to know if they have the double derate option, carbon vs. steel brakes etc just from some photos on a.net...The good thing here is that the config files can be modified and shared - if a pilot for X airlines knows the exact options loadout, he/she can create it and upload the file to the library here, you can then replace our file with that one and you'll have it perfect. If I become aware of more accurate files, I'll probably just update our livery package for that airline to have the more accurate set - over time this will result in most of them being very close.

Hello all, this is my first post in this forum!I bought the 737-800NGX less than a week ago so I'm still heads down in the manuals...........I agree completely with Ryan, there is no way to get the files 100 % right. I spent a couple of hours today with a close friend who flies 737-800 and we did our best to get the files correct for two specific aircraft individuals. Even he couldn't answer some of my questions about the settings since every airline operates in slightly different ways and does not use all the options available.One should also remember that an aircraft is just a bunch of spare parts flying in close formation. An aircraft which has steel brakes today might have carbon brakes in a couple of months, backup instruments could also be changed and so on.......I believe file sharing from those who really knows might be the best solution.

Yes, thanks for that, I was aware. Unfortunately, while I can switch the MCP's (Collins vs Honeywell) I am not finding a way to get rid of the less-attractive main ND display gauges on the main dash panel below the MCP in favor of the ones on the United airlines livery which I find much more informative and better-looking :(

I think they look terrible, but I'll still help ya find 'em.Under EQUIPMENT, you're looking for the EFIS option of SIDE-BY-SIDE (not OVER-UNDER). Those might not be the exact names, but keep looking and you'll find 'em. You're in the right spot.

You can also just load the UNITED configuration as is, the setting is called LOAD FROM ANOTHER in aircraft options menu. You then select the united tail number and you are good to go.

I think they look terrible, but I'll still help ya find 'em.Under EQUIPMENT, you're looking for the EFIS option of SIDE-BY-SIDE (not OVER-UNDER). Those might not be the exact names, but keep looking and you'll find 'em. You're in the right spot.

You can also just load the UNITED configuration as is, the setting is called LOAD FROM ANOTHER in aircraft options menu. You then select the united tail number and you are good to go.

Thanks to you both for your guidance. I guess to each their own. The side-by-side is just very helpful to me during landings, the other (I 'presume' older?) layout just seems not as informative at a quick glance, but that could be because I have a lot of hours on the otherGracias amigos!Robert

Edited February 3, 201214 yr by rsm

the other (I 'presume' older?) layout

It is actually "the other way round", the side-by-side along with EFIS/MAP displays are made to emulate the 737 Classic, thus can be considered "older".You do not normally need the information shown on lower DU in ENG mode, during normal flight. If abnormal condition occurs, the screen would pop-up automatically.

I was about to say what Peter said. It comes from the days of the 300/400/500 series. Basically, this style on the EFIS is to approximate what you'd see in the older planes for familiarity:You can see how the engine gauges are laid out similarly to the side-by-side option.To expand upon what Peter wrote, part of the 'new' philosophy is minimizing information overload. Provide the user with the information necessary for the current situation. If the other information is needed, you can select it, or the system will display it automatically if there is an issue.

I was about to say what Peter said. It comes from the days of the 300/400/500 series. Basically, this style on the EFIS is to approximate what you'd see in the older planes for familiarity:You can see how the engine gauges are laid out similarly to the side-by-side option.To expand upon what Peter wrote, part of the 'new' philosophy is minimizing information overload. Provide the user with the information necessary for the current situation. If the other information is needed, you can select it, or the system will display it automatically if there is an issue.

Well, that's amazing and informative, thanks to you and Peter as well! It's backwards from my experience, but that's only because I 'started off' with the 'older' version (which I wrongly thought was newer). Regardless, the 'older' style (side-by side) is something that looks great when I drag it to my extra side-monitor so I can see everything enlarged and at eye-level. Then I have the actual cockpit view directly in front of me...and my tired old eyes ;)Thanks again for the info and the pic! Wow- look at the BAD VISIBILITY out of that cockpit window! Who did the design on that? (Is it just me, or is seeing the runway sort of like driving a giant luxury car compared with the view of the road from a Corvette or Ferrari?)Cheers!

Edited February 4, 201214 yr by rsm

Thanks again for the info and the pic! Wow- look at the BAD VISIBILITY out of that cockpit window! Who did the design on that? (Is it just me, or is seeing the runway sort of like driving a giant luxury car compared with the view of the road from a Corvette or Ferrari?)Cheers!

You're welcome. The vis isn't that bad, actually. The angle is off. Note the camera is up almost level with the overhead. If you put a camera up near the ceiling of your car and aimed it at your dash, you'd get a similar poor view out the front.