July 31, 201114 yr Commercial Member Sorry, but I don`t actually understand what do you mean with "by policy".....could somebody explain? Eduardo Rubini It is PMDG's policy that we don't model or simulate aircraft functions pertaining to aircraft or airport security. Vin Scimone Precision Manuals Development Group www.precisionmanuals.com
July 31, 201114 yr All the interesting buttons and flashing lights are at the front, forget about the back! :) Flight Sim New Zealand- Flight Sim Blog
July 31, 201114 yr Then I can hope for the cabin lock button to work (just like in the Queen?) It adds to the immersion. Push FA call buttons if any, ask wife for coffee, when she approaches push the button then allow her to put it on desk :D Regards Kagan Ozgul
July 31, 201114 yr "To do that would require us to simulate the mechanisms in place to unlock and open the cockpit door, which is one of the few things we will not simulate (by policy)." I'm sorry, but that sounds more than a bit silly to me. All you have to simulate is a door opening and closing, as is the case with the main passenger entry door rear of the pilot's seat. With regard to the locked/unlocked switch, that can be simulated without any difficulty. There's no "security procedures" or mechanisms to be simulated, just the visual of a door opening/closing. Pretty simple, really! Matthew Bellette
July 31, 201114 yr "To do that would require us to simulate the mechanisms in place to unlock and open the cockpit door, which is one of the few things we will not simulate (by policy)." I'm sorry, but that sounds more than a bit silly to me. All you have to simulate is a door opening and closing, as is the case with the main passenger entry door rear of the pilot's seat. With regard to the locked/unlocked switch, that can be simulated without any difficulty. There's no "security procedures" or mechanisms to be simulated, just the visual of a door opening/closing. Pretty simple, really!Probably off limits from the licensing with Boeing? Or they have no interest in the FAA taking the product off the market because of a security hole, or something stupid. Whatever way I don't care....I just want the front left seat!
July 31, 201114 yr The door opens on the PMDG B747-400 and their -400F. I can't speak on the other versions of the 747 that have been released as I don't own them. I just don't see the fuss over a visual representation of a door opening/closing. It's an animation, not something top-secret. Matthew Bellette
July 31, 201114 yr Commercial Member I'm sorry, but that sounds more than a bit silly to me. All you have to simulate is a door opening and closing, as is the case with the main passenger entry door rear of the pilot's seat. With regard to the locked/unlocked switch, that can be simulated without any difficulty. There's no "security procedures" or mechanisms to be simulated, just the visual of a door opening/closing. Pretty simple, really! Ok, let me state this in a less diplomatic manner then. NO VIRTUAL CABIN ACCESSIBLE FROM THE VC. Vin Scimone Precision Manuals Development Group www.precisionmanuals.com
July 31, 201114 yr Ok, let me state this in a less diplomatic manner then. NO VIRTUAL CABIN ACCESSIBLE FROM THE VC. ended Marc M.
July 31, 201114 yr yeah i agree with that actually because i had a captain sim addon once and to be honest loved the plane. it did run better when i disabled the Virtual Cabin. :)
July 31, 201114 yr Actually, my argument was NOT based on whether there should be a virtual cabin. If my earlier post had been read, everyone would have read that I see no point of a virtual cabin as I don't spend much time outside of the virtual cockpit. My argument was based solely on the reason for the opening cockpit door not being simulated as being due to "security concerns" on the mechanics of the operation. That was my sole argument, plain and simple and diplomatic! See post text below... "To do that would require us to simulate the mechanisms in place to unlock and open the cockpit door, which is one of the few things we will not simulate (by policy)." Matthew Bellette
July 31, 201114 yr "To do that would require us to simulate the mechanisms in place to unlock and open the cockpit door, which is one of the few things we will not simulate (by policy)." I'm sorry, but that sounds more than a bit silly to me. All you have to simulate is a door opening and closing, as is the case with the main passenger entry door rear of the pilot's seat. With regard to the locked/unlocked switch, that can be simulated without any difficulty. There's no "security procedures" or mechanisms to be simulated, just the visual of a door opening/closing. Pretty simple, really! Man understand one thing...If PMDG do something, they simulate it to the MAX you know...They do not do like you said, they only do something if they can simulate it to the MAX.It's like the weather radar, they don't simulate it cuz it's not possible to simulate it very well and accurate to real life.(FS limitation)Sorry for my english..Luiz Cunha
July 31, 201114 yr Man understand one thing...If PMDG do something, they simulate it to the MAX you know...They do not do like you said, they only do something if they can simulate it to the MAX.It's like the weather radar, they don't simulate it cuz it's not possible to simulate it very well and accurate to real life.(FS limitation) Sorry for my english..Luiz Cunha I understand perfectly what you're saying, Luiz. However, it's just a door. All that is required is the visual of the motion of the door opening/closing. I doubt very much that PMDG has simulated the locking mechanisms for every other opening door in the passenger cabin. It is not necessary for these mechanisms to be simulated on cabin or cockpit doors as there is absolutely no way for anyone to notice the difference between a simulation of the door opening/closing with the actual mechanisms being simulated or not. Having said that, I do not see the need for a virtual cabin. As I said previously, I simply wanted to raise a valid point about the simulation of security mechanisms related to the operation of the cockpit door. Matthew Bellette
August 1, 201114 yr We do not have a virtual cabin modeled. .......... We do have, however, a moderately detailed cabin that can be seen through the windows of the external model, and which is also the camera location for all of the wing views. You can see a glimpse of the cabin in the Angle of Attack walk-around video located here. (move the time slider of the video to 8:20) To do that would require us to simulate the mechanisms in place to unlock and open the cockpit door, which is one of the few things we will not simulate (by policy). I'm confused. In the walk around clip (8:20 - 8:30) there definately is an aft cabin modelled and not only for looking into from outside. The camera is moving along the isle of the cabin (agreed - it's rather a rough model, but still). So - can I or can't I walk around in the aft cabin on NGX? Peter Vestergren
August 1, 201114 yr This cabin is a part of external model. So, you can, with additional camera software, walk into the main door and walk around aft cabin. What we don't know is, if its there another aft cabin as part of VC model. My guess is, there isn't because of lots of polygons spent in cockpit... Mike Cerveny
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