August 9, 201114 yr Author ok guys, thx for those stupid answers. it seems i am talking to anxious childs ...back to real world flying. Who's next?
August 9, 201114 yr there is way too much detail in the model for a simulation. I think this statement pretty much sums up how ridiculous this thread is. AJ Pongress
August 9, 201114 yr Commercial Member We are considering a lower-resolution texture pack for those with lower-end systems. We'll keep you posted. Vin Scimone Precision Manuals Development Group www.precisionmanuals.com
August 9, 201114 yr OOOOO Nice, one thing that I miss is being able to adjust the FPS on the Co Pilots DU's, I hate just to turn them off, but to able to almost shut them off like using a setting of 10 or 12 would be nice, that's what you guys did with the JS41. Ron Hamilton "95% is half the truth, but most of it is lies, but if you read half of what is written, you'll be okay." __ Honey Boo Boo's Mom
August 9, 201114 yr OOOOO Nice, one thing that I miss is being able to adjust the FPS on the Co Pilots DU's, I hate just to turn them off, but to able to almost shut them off like using a setting of 10 or 12 would be nice, that's what you guys did with the JS41. You can, it's in the manual. Willy
August 9, 201114 yr Commercial Member Another thing that really improves performance (at least on my rig) is to go to Options>settings>display>aircraft and to UNcheck high resolution virtual cockpit. What this does is decrease the resolution of all the displays (although we designed them so that they would still be readable when lowered). Vin Scimone Precision Manuals Development Group www.precisionmanuals.com
August 9, 201114 yr We are considering a lower-resolution texture pack for those with lower-end systems. We'll keep you posted. Excellent Idea!Thanks!I think you should pin that! Guy
August 9, 201114 yr ok guys, thx for those stupid answers. it seems i am talking to anxious childs ...back to real world flying. Don't be arrogant. Alot of us are real world pilots. Youre thread was bound to provoque this kind of reaction.It's like buying a Ferrari and asking to replace the engine with a 100hp 4 banger because you feel the car is to powerfull..I guess what people are trying to say is, PMDG has put an inordinate amount of work to produce THE most advance add-on on the market for FSX, and here you are, asking them to spend more precious time to downgrade it to suit your computer. In other words, they are (i am) saying, buy something that is less demanding for your rig, but leave the 737 NGX alone. Al Gaudreault CYVR
August 10, 201114 yr Moderator Hello PMDG team, is there a light version of the model planned for one of the next releases? I know you guys are very good and you have proven it very well on programming and modeling the 737, but honestly in the simulator I don't care about anything behind the cockpit door.Or such things like serial number on the sliding window ... The systems are awesome, but there is way too much detail in the model for a simulation. Kind Regards,PatrickPatrick,Simply turn off the exterior model and just leave the VC model turned on if you want. I tried flying with the exterior model turned off to see if it would make any difference, but in all honesty when in the VC I saw no difference. The only difference I saw was obviously that when I went to spot view their was no a/c to see.Sean CampbellAnother thing that really improves performance (at least on my rig) is to go to Options>settings>display>aircraft and to UNcheck high resolution virtual cockpit. What this does is decrease the resolution of all the displays (although we designed them so that they would still be readable when lowered).I just sorted my .VC file from largest file size to smallest, took the four largest size files and rezied the textures down to 1024 and the third one which was the main panel down to 2048 X 512. It's been the biggest difference I have found in performance so far and still looks the same.I tried the other way you mentioned but it resulted in blurry textures on my rig. Doing the way I did it, the textures are still crisp and loading performance is much imporved.Sean Campbell Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 10, 201114 yr Commercial Member Patrick, Simply turn off the exterior model and just leave the VC model turned on if you want. I tried flying with the exterior model turned off to see if it would make any difference, but in all honesty when in the VC I saw no difference. The only difference I saw was obviously that when I went to spot view their was no a/c to see. Sean Campbell I just sorted my .VC file from largest file size to smallest, took the four largest size files and rezied the textures down to 1024 and the third one which was the main panel down to 2048 X 512. It's been the biggest difference I have found in performance so far and still looks the same. I tried the other way you mentioned but it resulted in blurry textures on my rig. Doing the way I did it, the textures are still crisp and loading performance is much imporved. Sean Campbell Curious how much improvement you saw making these changes. Vin Scimone Precision Manuals Development Group www.precisionmanuals.com
August 10, 201114 yr interested in this too Bryan Richards "People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.
August 10, 201114 yr What I did on my CS 757, was change the size of my textures in the VC, so from 10242, to 5122, and unnecessary parts to even 2562, 1282 if I needed, I got about 10 FPS extra, so from 15 to 25.If anybody needs me to, I can do it on my NGX and I'll gladly tell you the results. So I just did it in my NGX, I started some minutes ago, I'm down to 1024, in the main panels, not much of a difference in the main parts of VC, in terms of Quality, no stretching, or anything, my VC textures load faster. I tried with GIMP initially, what I realized is by re-sizing them you increase the size of the image strangely, so I did it with Photoshop, The size decreased, now I'm seeing a 7 FPS improval over all. That is a win, if I was going from 13FPS, to 20FPS. Well worth my time.Okay, so I tried it in the night, I'm not a pro on the texture re-sizing, but I did not do the night textures, however my performance has increased in the night, I'm going to try decreasing the size of my night textures and see what that does.Thanks for the Jet btw PMDG.
August 10, 201114 yr hmmmm thanks for sharing this info, maybe a little something pmdg can explore if possible and provide as an option to users who are kind of struggling with FPS Bryan Richards "People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.
August 10, 201114 yr hmmmm thanks for sharing this info, maybe a little something pmdg can explore if possible and provide as an option to users who are kind of struggling with FPS The plane is nice itself stock, with the tweak it's just a bit better, (10FPS increase on average)I've backed up my files and compiled them into an installer, It's nice lol I want to save the professional feeling of my Ngx! I'm sure this can stop some OOM warnings, since it's easier on the Computer.My computer is down as of now, so there is no way to get these files for you guys as much as I would like to I never thought I'd have to share this with anyone or I would of done so already, Sorry.To the people playing smart A words, while having an up to date computer is nice, and while everyone would love to have the best computer it is not as easy as it is for you, for me, money is a key ingredient in a good computer, one ingredient I don't have. For this we have to improvise.Honestly for me, it will take me another 2 years to meet up with you guys, I'm young and I have to provide for myself.
August 10, 201114 yr We are considering a lower-resolution texture pack for those with lower-end systems. We'll keep you posted. v. scimone, can u pls release a 2048 resolution pack for the only vc? i get good fps outside and 2d and on average in 3d cockpit. i get around 18 - 24 in vs on big airports and resolution of 2048 can help me not go under 20. cross my fingerdavid lee
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