Greetings earthlings,I'm looking to expand my hangar, and I've been thinking about the world of biz jets. Whats good in that regard these days? I'm looking for systems realism and detail, features (updatable navdata, load manager, great manuals etc) and graphics in that order (systems being the most important, graphics the least). Does anyone have any suggestions?

Eaglesoft, with their range http://www.eaglesoftdg.com/ and the Flight1 Mustang spring to mind http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=f1mustang bound to be others but I am somewhat drunk and a bit hazy LOL

XTreme Prototype's 20 Series. It's the Learjet 24, 25, and 28 with the loud-but-powerful GE CJ610 Turbojet engines.

Not a lot of awesome biz jets... We could use a quality Hawker, Falcon, Global Express (since Gulfstream's policy is ridiculous imho) The Flight1 Mustang is probably the most comprehensive to date... not too fast though hehe. The ES Citation X is a little dated in the graphics department but has all the nice features plus navdata support - so that's what I usually fly.

The Flight1 Mustang also has navdata support via Navigraph. That Learjet looks nice ...

The Flight1 Mustang is fantastic.

That Learjet looks nice ...

Meh... it's alright. The VC is... interesting. It lacks atmosphere but the modeling is well done. The FDE.... not really sure about. I bought it but have since uninstalled it.

Meh... it's alright. The VC is... interesting. It lacks atmosphere but the modeling is well done. The FDE.... not really sure about. I bought it but have since uninstalled it.

Did you get the latest update for that aircraft? Apparently the VC textures were updated quite a bit.

The Flight1 Mustang is probably the most comprehensive to date... not too fast though hehe. The ES Citation X is a little dated in the graphics department but has all the nice features plus navdata support - so that's what I usually fly.

The F1 Mustang looks great, although the VC will bring all but the top end systems frame rates right down. The Citation X (v2) whilst not quite so pretty runs much better, I think it is a little unfair to call the graphics on it dated - just not quite up to the levels of the Mustang, but what you lose in texture resolution you gain in frame rates. The Mustang was designed as a step up from GA aircraft and feels like it, easy to start up and get going. The Citation X is much more like a commercial aircraft, quite complicated to start and program the FMS. The X is also the fastest of the BizJets (although I seem to remember Gulfstream claiming one of theirs was faster). Both are excellent, although given the choice I fly the "X", at least until PMDG bring out their BBJ !!! G

I have the latest update on the xtreme 20 series... it helps a little. I think it's fair to call the ES graphics a bit out of date. The 3d switches helped a lot but it still looks like FS9 standards. Take a look at Orbx Lancair, RealAir Duke turbine (their piston is getting a bit out of date too), Aerosoft's Katana, and of course the NGX. It's only my opinion of course and I love the plane to death...

Meh... it's alright. The VC is... interesting. It lacks atmosphere but the modeling is well done. The FDE.... not really sure about. I bought it but have since uninstalled it.

I think the VC is really nice at night but the day textures look a bit flat. I still like the aircraft and I wish there were more repaints for it. BTW, I do have the update. Of the ones listed, which aircraft has the longest range? Right now, the only one I fly is the Lear but its range is very limited. For me, graphics are more important than systems depth.

I'm pretty sure the Citation X gives you the most range. Yeah, flat is a better term than what I used...

The Xtreme Lear 20 is nice; there is also a (user) tweak out there (with full installer) which replaced the entire FDE with a better one. But I didn't think the original was bad anyway. F1 Mustang still the cream of the crop; heavy on frames but not in the NGX league! As long as you use sensible settings, it's perfectly usable. Beatiful systems, FDE, VC and modelling. Agree the ES stuff tends to look dated in the texturing department (nothing unfair at all about Ryan's comments. The texturing is there for everyone to see!). Systems and FDE pretty good though, but agree it feels more like a FS9 plane. We need a PMDG biz jet!

Citation X gives you both the longest legs and the highest speed, as far as available quality bizjets for FSX are concerned. The RR Citation X is the fastest bizjet in the world, AFAIK. However, the ES Citation X is getting old, frankly. Systems are good, but the thing needs a graphical overhaul, especially in the VC. XTreme Prototypes did change the graphics and a few technical issues in the SP2 update for the 20 series, but personally I think that SP2 was a step backward in the graphics department. The "used" texture idea was a good one, but the planes that use the "used" textures look downright neglected, dirty, and unsafe! The used look is just overdone. Also, the pre-SP2 VC looks better than the post-SP2 VC. Moreover, the passenger that SP2 adds is, again, ugly. Very much so. Distractingly ugly, in fact. When I flew it I just reverted back to the pre-SP2 version of the Lear. Still flies great, looks better, and I love all the steam gauges - they're very well done. The Mustang is very beautiful and easy to fly, but is heavy on the frame rates. You'll definitely need to scale back weather and graphical settings to get smooth performance while flying it.

Citation X gives you both the longest legs and the highest speed, as far as available quality bizjets for FSX are concerned. The RR Citation X is the fastest bizjet in the world, AFAIK.

I can't find the proof but I'm pretty sure they tested the new G650 just a bit faster than the Citation X. I think it was mach .99 in a descent or something.