Used to be plenty for FS9...Georender, stateside. Covered Yellowstone, Grand Tetons, Alaska. Alas, never transferred to FSX.The whole of France is available if money is no object, for FSX...VFR France, Scenerybox.Denmark, Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland all have free/payware photo stuff. Then of course their is the FS Altitude series if you are into Tubes....no good for bush fliers though.

SimSavvy is back. The WEB site is up. I have ALL 48 SimSavvy states. So I now fly anywhere is lower 48 using photo real. I think it is great! I did have to install an internal 2GB disk just for this scenery...but, it was well worth it.Jim

SimSavvy is back. The WEB site is up. I have ALL 48 SimSavvy states. So I now fly anywhere is lower 48 using photo real. I think it is great! I did have to install an internal 2GB disk just for this scenery...but, it was well worth it.

Jim

 

I have mailed Larry 10 days ago on Scenery for Asia .. I haven't got any reply :(

Well Horizon have done the whole of England and Eire and parts of Scotland, Earth Simulations are still doing the Channel Isles and have enhanced the Horizon Scenery no end with accurately placed trees etc. NL2000 have Photosceneried (is that a word?) the whole of the Netherlands for free and very good it is too.

 

That little lot seems to keep me pretty well occupied with flights.

 

John

Yeah, i mentioned horizon in my iniial post, i've got plenty of their stuff and the uk2000 airports to go with it - and as mentioned, their scotland releases were the only thing I could think of back at the start of the year that I was looking forward to.

 

Flash forward to July and Scotland is the only significant release I know of in 2012.

 

Simsavvy's website is up but things seem quiet.

fS dreamscapes is dead last i checked.

Vero fs seem to have released some california scenery - but i've heard nothing about it.

Meganscenery haven't made anything new in years.

 

As a photoscenery junky, with the increasing availablity of high-quality source data and cheap harddrives to store all this information - i had hoped that a new 'photoscenery golden age' might be at hand. Instead, we're mainly presented with legacy producrpts from a couple of years back with a very small amount of new product appearing.

I had hoped that a new 'photoscenery golden age' might be at hand. Instead, we're mainly presented with legacy producrpts from a couple of years back with a very small amount of new product appearing.

 

It could be better, I would like for example to get whole Norway photoscenery with high resolution mesh, but it isn't as bad as you think. France VFR is doing excellent work with two series/types of photoscenery:

VFR Regional - which is photoscenery with impressive autogen (look at the two links I added below [2] and [3]) and Photo Regional - photoscenery with 1m resolution. South France territory is very interesting for see sighting flying. I think is much more interesting than England or Scotland.

[1] http://www.francevfr....asp?Code=PHOTO

[2] http://www.vfrnetwor...ments-en-cours/

[3] http://www.vfrnetwor...-3d-automation/

 

Smaller range of photosceneries you may find at France Touristique Scenery:

http://www.francetou...r.asp?ID=357383

 

You may get also whole Germany as VFR Germany done by Aerosoft, Switzerland Professional done by Fly Logic (FSX version has 1m resolution), Poland territory is now beeing released by VFRPoland.com and at the end I would like to mention about very tiny but beautiful scenery of Isles of Scilly done by Earth Simulations - great place for heli flying.

I really don't like flying over fake terrain. Look at the roads and rivers on your orbx/gex sometime - running through houses and farms. It's just eye candy.What is real is photoscenery with good, hand placed 3d objects. Theres no limitation of fsx that stops this - its exactly what orbx has done with many of their airports eg cairns, tamworth, bundaberg etcThe main problem with the above is the fairly small area covered - i'd love a large area if high quality photoscenery with 3d objects on the approach and depaeture points eg from 10 miles out.

 

This is precisely what I'd want. My mind just doesn't enjoy the landclass stuff as much as photoreal. But photoreal without some autogen is pretty much bad as well, especially on and around airports. I got bluesky for Santa Barbara and just had to turn it off because it was so barren and it's such a beautiful place! At least UTX has houses...sigh.

 

I've been wondering about Flight1's Instant Object Studio and Instance Scenery and wonder if I could use them. Maybe I could pick an airport and start building objects to sit on photoreal and then package them up and upload them so people could enjoy them, I might do that. If a bunch of other people did the same the world would start to fill in. BlueSky seems the obvious candidate for such a project. If we could do it for SimSavvy as well, so much the better. It would support them and maybe they'd get some $$ to add more areas and even higher quality photos.

I think the largest area of 3D placed on photoreal scenery is our Shawbury fields project that was created for the UK's Defense helicopter flying school based at Shawbury in the UK. It's approximately 3500 km2 of Accurately placed custom autogen, a few airports and tons of local landmarks etc etc. There's a video of it here : http://www.earthsimulations.com/video.html .

 

But....While we were proud to do it because it's helping to train the UK MOD's pilots, as a financial venture it turned out to be a complete flop, it's been by far our worst performing product in terms of sales....so go figure???

I think the largest area of 3D placed on photoreal scenery is our Shawbury fields project that was created for the UK's Defense helicopter flying school based at Shawbury in the UK. It's approximately 3500 km2 of Accurately placed custom autogen, a few airports and tons of local landmarks etc etc.

 

That is the most amazing scenery I've seen...blows everything away. I haven't had any inkling to fly in England but I'd have to think about that if the scenery is like that. Took a bit of hunting to find it for sale on your site. Also, it's very difficult for me to see the quality of the other scenery that you've created from your site. Not sure if there are similar pics or videos?

 

EDIT: I did find some pics. The regular photoreal areas look good too. The site was really heavy on my laptop so it was difficult to get a look at too much. Looks like a lot of the products are not for sale? Got some 'not found' and 'out of stock' on the stuff I clicked.

 

It could be better, I would like for example to get whole Norway photoscenery with high resolution mesh, but it isn't as bad as you think. France VFR is doing excellent work with two series/types of photoscenery:

VFR Regional - which is photoscenery with impressive autogen (look at the two links I added below [2] and [3]) and Photo Regional - photoscenery with 1m resolution. South France territory is very interesting for see sighting flying. I think is much more interesting than England or Scotland.

[1] http://www.francevfr....asp?Code=PHOTO

[2] http://www.vfrnetwor...ments-en-cours/

[3] http://www.vfrnetwor...-3d-automation/

 

Smaller range of photosceneries you may find at France Touristique Scenery:

http://www.francetou...r.asp?ID=357383

 

You may get also whole Germany as VFR Germany done by Aerosoft, Switzerland Professional done by Fly Logic (FSX version has 1m resolution), Poland territory is now beeing released by VFRPoland.com and at the end I would like to mention about very tiny but beautiful scenery of Isles of Scilly done by Earth Simulations - great place for heli flying.

 

Well, aerosoft germany and switzerland pro are certainly not new. I bought all the aerosoft germany stuff ages ago, it's ok, but the autogen isn't great and i usually fly with it turned off. The actual terrain images are not as good as the best available in 2012.

 

Switzerland pro i don't own, it's pretty expensive and i've heard the the images are sattelite only and not particularly hi-res.

 

Might need to check out the france vfr stuff again though...the main reason i've stayed away from it is my interest was more in country-sized scenery (like aerosoft germany), and from memory france vfr would be very expensive to cover a substantial part of france.

 

For large scale europe - i've used aerosoft germany, the freeware netherlands and the horizon vfr uk scenery. This gives me enough photoscenery to sensibly fly the ngx over.

france vfr would be very expensive to cover a substantial part of france.

That is the problem nearly all commercial photosceneries are expensive, maybe except Sim Savvy's USA (if we mind size).

I think that France VFR is similar priced per square mile to Horizon VFR and problem lies with bigger size of territory. Other thing is that some regions are still under development.

I think the largest area of 3D placed on photoreal scenery is our Shawbury fields project that was created for the UK's Defense helicopter flying school based at Shawbury in the UK. It's approximately 3500 km2 of Accurately placed custom autogen, a few airports and tons of local landmarks etc etc. There's a video of it here : http://www.earthsimu....com/video.html .

 

But....While we were proud to do it because it's helping to train the UK MOD's pilots, as a financial venture it turned out to be a complete flop, it's been by far our worst performing product in terms of sales....so go figure???

 

That is sad! I feel as a scenery developer myself, your approach to scenery with the high res photoreal and accurate 3D objects is the way to go. I have isles of Sicily and I am extremely impressed with your products!

 

That is the problem nearly all commercial photosceneries are expensive, maybe except Sim Savvy's USA (if we mind size).

I think that France VFR is similar priced per square mile to Horizon VFR and problem lies with bigger size of territory. Other thing is that some regions are still under development.

 

Mainly because quality commercial use sat imagery isn't cheap.

I think the largest area of 3D placed on photoreal scenery is our Shawbury fields project that was created for the UK's Defense helicopter flying school based at Shawbury in the UK. It's approximately 3500 km2 of Accurately placed custom autogen, a few airports and tons of local landmarks etc etc. There's a video of it here : http://www.earthsimu....com/video.html .

 

But....While we were proud to do it because it's helping to train the UK MOD's pilots, as a financial venture it turned out to be a complete flop, it's been by far our worst performing product in terms of sales....so go figure???

 

Wow that video was the most amazing FSX scenery I have ever seen to date - it beats orbx by a mile in that video. Strange about the unpopularity, I am looking to buy - will checkout the other products.

Wow that video was the most amazing FSX scenery I have ever seen to date - it beats orbx by a mile in that video. Strange about the unpopularity, I am looking to buy - will checkout the other products.

 

Great video indeed. Take note that you need Horizon's UK 2 for it! This addon 'only' adds 3D objects and trees to 3500 square km of that scenery. I own that photoreal scenery and I am tempted to buy this addon just to do some (very) slow flights in that region... On the other hand I could also get Treescape for that region: that covers everything with trees... Interesting. Still, Horizon's scenery is quite old already.