Hi fellow captains.I am following a Video Training of Navigraph nDAC: Copenhagen VOR-04R (EKCH)I fly inbound to EKCH heading 290° inbound1. Why is it called 290° inbound and not 110° inbound, as I fly in fact on the 110° radial.2. I noticed that the VOR "needle" (the center part) of the ND does not turn into magenta if captured. (In APP the needle is magenta).At DME 2.5 I give heading 203 and put 203 in COURSE and push VOR LOC.On the video the 737 turns to the left and captures the 203° radial. But that's outbound.3. How do I now to dial what radial?4. At pushing the VOR LOC MY plane is turning to the RIGHT!Is this a mixture of my faults or is this caused by other things?Frans / IVAO / AFR074

Just tried to fly it for you.1: look at a radial as a fysical line starting from the VOR to a direction. The radial 290 is at the left side of the VOR. Radial 110 is at the right side of it.2: Needle stays green with me too. At 2,5 DME from the radial, at heading 290, about 3 mile south of KOR, I turn left heading 233 (to get an interception angle of 30°) and push VOR/LOC. The plane intercepts the radial correct, turning left, KOR outbound 203.3: course 2034: mine is turning left. Maybe try a different interception angle (not 203)Best Regards,Bert Van BulckScreenshot of flight in map attached.

Edited February 25, 201214 yr by rocketfs

Hello Rajah,I am no ngx specialist, but also encounter this 'problem' when using vor loc's.As you have noticed the diverence is always 180 degrees.This comes when you draw the course/heading line you are flying too and through the vor beacon. At the other side of the beacon you get the other number with the 180 degree diverence.Maybe the easy way is alway use the outbound cource from the vor altough I not 100% sure that is trough. I can only explain a little bit of your problem.A view days ago I put in the cource in the fmc fix option and used both numbers (put in two entry's in the fmc), so that a line get drawn too and through the vor on the ngx displays.Hopes this helps a little?Maikel Rozemeijer.

Edited February 25, 201214 yr by pe1123

1. Why is it called 290° inbound and not 110° inbound, as I fly in fact on the 110° radial.

You are flying a 290° course which is inbound to the station. You are correct that you are on the 110° radial and flying inbound. Both are true.

3. How do I now to dial what radial?

Note that the dial in the cockpit is CRS or course. You dial in the course you want. If you want to fly to the station on a 290 course, dial in 290. If you want to fly out on a 203 course, dial 203, then you'll dial in 038 for the final approach course.

At pushing the VOR LOC MY plane is turning to the RIGHT!Is this a mixture of my faults or is this caused by other things?

That depends on if you're left or right of course, of course.

@Bert2. I just called it "needle" but I ment the center magenta part. I did look it up and the magenta part is called the "Course Deviation Indicator".As you see at the attached picture it's not colored solid magenta as it should be. How is your Course Deviation Indicator?I agree with you. You have to intercept the radial with an interception angle.I think the method nDac gives is not the right one:- VOR/LOC on radial 290° inbound KAS- prepare intercepting HDG 201- DME 2.5 KAS press HDG and set COURSE 203 and press VOR/LOC again.In my opinion it's not possible to intercept the radial in this manner.@Thanks to Maikel and Matt I found an outstanding video learning the principals of flying in relation with a VOR.

Frans / IVAO / AFR074

Edited February 26, 201214 yr by Rajah

This might help....http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/vor-appr.htm

@Thanks to Maikel and Matt I found an outstanding video learning the principals of flying in relation with a VOR.

That was a really nice video indeed! Thanks for sharing.

That depends on if you're left or right of course, of course.

LOL ... I bet a flight with you on a radio quiet day would be interesting.

Hi fellow captains,After some study, I think to understand now the principals of the VOR. Thanks to your advises and suggestions.I am flying the IVAO Netherland Division Tours and leg 6 gives me still (with all the knowledge I thought to have now) a lot of trouble.If I program in the FMC the BIRG6C STAR on VORD 22R, there is no transition.I don't know where to turn from the 304 leg to the final 224 approach.On the Indirect Apch C Rwy 22L/R apch VOR/DME AZR U/S I don't see any indications.1. You have to fly that all just on sight?2. What means U/S in VOR/DME AZR U/S3 On the VOR C RWY 22L/R Inital apch VOR/DME AZR U/S I cannot figure out what D113.90 LUC means. It's on the 89 degr leg from MUS. Can't be 113 miles from LUC, because the Arc above has a distance of 23 miles from CGS.4. Even after the SP1c, the Course Deviation Indicator does not color solid magenta after capture.Is this normal or a bug?Thanks in advance for your suggestions!Frans

Sorry, as I'm not familiar with the route you're flying it would be helpful if you could post what airport you're trying to fly into.U/S means unservicable. Could be a prodedure that is to be conducted should that particular VOR be out of service.Regarding #1, although I'm not familiar with the approach you're talking about, a VOR/DME approach is generally not to be flown visually, since it's an IAP, obviously. However it might be followed by a visual segment. See LOWI in tut #2 for a classic example.Regarding #4, if you're talking about the HSI (if you're flying raw data) then no, I'm pretty sure the CDI doesn't change its shape at any time. It just indicates your deviation from the selected radial, but there is no such thing as a 'capture' indication.

Edited March 6, 201214 yr by badderjet

Hello,looked up leg 6 of IVAO NL IFR tour. It puts you landing in Nice, right?You should be arriving from VEVAR though, not BIRGO. Anyway by BIRGO 6C you arrive at MAS.You should be using VOR B procedure. My jepps are divided into two plates - initial and final. Initial will have you track 089 and then join AZR DME arc. You should arrive at AZR101/20. Then you should proceed to AZR079/15 and continue on course 269 onto AZR VOR. At DME 5,5 you should see the airport and continue visually as described on plate "final" - turn to right and proceed just off the coast to line up with RWY 22L/R.@3: 113.9 is a frequency of DME you should observe.

Edited March 6, 201214 yr by Fabo

@Thanks badderjet. Yes, Nice LFMN.#4 Ok, no change of the Deviation indicator.@Fabo: I took the VOR C procedure. This one has 2 plates, the VOR B in Navigraph don't.But I know now that you have to fly the final approach on sight.#3 The radial 89 of LUC. But I still don't understand what the "D" stands for. Normaly it stands for distance.