March 11, 201214 yr Fragmentum, I was not talking specifically about LianLi case, but rather about the looks.But considering good airflow: I don't care about that much, for me only an outtake is enough, since I have full watercooling, and only need is a slight output to take the little warmth from RAMs and Mainboard out the case. Rest is already outside.Good point from Corey, I would like to know where this goes to.
March 11, 201214 yr I was of the understanding that positive pressure provides better cooling and minimizes dust buildup inside the case if you have filters on all the intake fans.Lots of opinions in both negative and positive case pressure camps hereIMHO I would opt for the negative pressure insuring positive airflow through the case, and clean out any excessive dust buildup over time. Illigitimi non-carbrundum
March 11, 201214 yr I've got an Antec 902 which comes with three fans. Two small fans on the lower front sucking air in, and an oversized big slow speed fan sucking the hot air out on top. Comfortable temperatures on load, no excessive noise. I've got a Noctua DH-14 blowing upwards towards the exit fan on top too. Good cable routing options.
March 11, 201214 yr Lots of opinions in both negative and positive case pressure camps hereIMHO I would opt for the negative pressure insuring positive airflow through the case, and clean out any excessive dust buildup over time.And my conclusion: Just move fresh, cool air through the case and exhaust the hot spots. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
March 12, 201214 yr And my conclusion: Just move fresh, cool air through the case and exhaust the hot spots.This was exactly my philosophy when I built my PC and I run nice and chilly!
March 12, 201214 yr But considering good airflow: I don't care about that much, for me only an outtake is enough, since I have full watercooling, and only need is a slight output to take the little warmth from RAMs and Mainboard out the case. Rest is already outside.If "full watercooling" means you have a secondary water block cooling your motherboard's power control circuitry, I could agree with this...but if not, the Vreg section definitely needs a good flow of cool air, especially on highly overclocked systems. It's not uncommon to see temps over 80 deg C on the FET heatsinks on a heavily-loaded mobo. Keeping the power regulation circuitry cool is commonly overlooked, and a good number of those overclocked systems that fail do so as a result of power regulation failure. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
March 12, 201214 yr If "full watercooling" means you have a secondary water block cooling your motherboard's power control circuitry, I could agree with this...but if not, the Vreg section definitely needs a good flow of cool air, especially on highly overclocked systems. It's not uncommon to see temps over 80 deg C on the FET heatsinks on a heavily-loaded mobo. Keeping the power regulation circuitry cool is commonly overlooked, and a good number of those overclocked systems that fail do so as a result of power regulation failure.Makes sense.
March 12, 201214 yr Bob, no, unfortunately not, due to the price. I've already thought of it couple of times, and each time I looked at it, I saw some 150€ for two waterblocks and just couldn't deal with myself.But nevertheless, I have no problems running, my inside temp is not high, judging from the outtake by hand (used to be way warmer when I had no WC), my mainboard temp is not very high (I would have to check now exactly how much, but I think it's around 45, can it be?).You are right, I know, though my overclocks, on the past 5 computers which I had with WC were very successful and I had 0 problems with the mainboards.
March 12, 201214 yr If "full watercooling" means you have a secondary water block cooling your motherboard's power control circuitry, I could agree with this...but if not, the Vreg section definitely needs a good flow of cool air, especially on highly overclocked systems. It's not uncommon to see temps over 80 deg C on the FET heatsinks on a heavily-loaded mobo. Keeping the power regulation circuitry cool is commonly overlooked, and a good number of those overclocked systems that fail do so as a result of power regulation failure.Keeping any of the components besides CPU and GPU cool is often overlooked. Water cooled or otherwise. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
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March 12, 201214 yr What do bothers me with these awesome cases is that I definitely need 7x 5.25 trays. Without that, I'm doomed.2x2 for HD boxes, 1x for SATA exchange tray, 1x optical, and usually 2x free for the pump, though pump can be fitted on many other places. 1x for the power/reset button.So, a full tower with many 5.25s is a must for me :(
March 12, 201214 yr So, a full tower with many 5.25s is a must for me :(I have a close friend with an AZZA case. They are very well built and have great aesthetics.AZZA has some very interesting cases.
March 13, 201214 yr I have a close friend with an AZZA case. They are very well built and have great aesthetics.AZZA has some very interesting cases.FUGLY ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
March 13, 201214 yr I just lol'ed seriously hardcore. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :LMAO:I'm serious! That thing would not be allowed to be near my room! And those cheap hot swaps? YUCK! :bad: ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
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