July 21, 201213 yr Night in Flight is almost like wearing NVGs. Landscape is too bright, lights are too dim. Except VASIs, which far outshine the airport beacons. Yes, airports in Flight do have rotating beacons. Took me a while to notice them, too.
July 21, 201213 yr We complained about the overly bright landscape at night in beta. It turns out that the previous version was too dark, so they brightened it. One of the devs said the new night lighting looked ok on the develpment monotirs. I guess it would, in a brightly lit office environment. Moral of the story: be careful what you complain about. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
July 21, 201213 yr We complained about the overly bright landscape at night in beta. It turns out that the previous version was too dark, so they brightened it. One of the devs said the new night lighting looked ok on the develpment monotirs. I guess it would, in a brightly lit office environment. Moral of the story: be careful what you complain about. Hook The dev team needs to buy some blankets to drape over their heads and monitors for testing the night effects, then.
July 21, 201213 yr We complained about the overly bright landscape at night in beta. It turns out that the previous version was too dark, so they brightened it. One of the devs said the new night lighting looked ok on the develpment monotirs. I guess it would, in a brightly lit office environment. Moral of the story: be careful what you complain about. Hook The dev team needs to buy some blankets to drape over their heads and monitors for testing the night effects, then. Lol. Certainly the solution turned out to be worse than the problem. They should prioritize in correcting this problem. Because of this I mostly avoid flying during the night when, by the contrary, it should be an exciting condition to fly in and makes the gameplay more varied. I have no experience in game development but I can't imagine the devs interacting with Flight the entire day and not bringing a solution for this. Or maybe I'm just being ignorant and not looking at all the facts . But I do believe that if something doesn't feel right then it isn't and corrections should be made until it is right. I hope Microsoft realizes this soon! The nights are darker if there's no moon up. Hook P.S. I'll try that out, tks
July 21, 201213 yr For me, no matter what weather theme I pick, if the moon is up, nights are overly bright. Exactly! And nice to have you back here ;-) Night lighting is always too bright for me. I also don't like the halo around the rw lights :-( BTW: I noticed TDZ lights for the first time in Alaska (i.e. Fairbanks Intl.) I didn't remember seeing it in Hawaii (?) Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
July 21, 201213 yr Since few people have calibration equipment for their monitors, virtually everyone will have a different appearance and experience. This is a classic problem in games which play out in night time scenarios. Some games include an in-game gamma correction. Perhaps this would be a good solution in this case. It was kind of funny to have people post screenshots and then say "See! It's obviously wrong!" without realizing that nearly everyone is seeing a different brightness and contrast in the same shot.
July 21, 201213 yr Since few people have calibration equipment for their monitors, virtually everyone will have a different appearance and experience. This is a classic problem in games which play out in night time scenarios. Some games include an in-game gamma correction. Perhaps this would be a good solution in this case. It was kind of funny to have people post screenshots and then say "See! It's obviously wrong!" without realizing that nearly everyone is seeing a different brightness and contrast in the same shot. Posting a screen shot is like posting a digital audio recording and telling people that this is what it sounds like on your speaker system.
July 21, 201213 yr Indeed. There's often a big difference in what your video card renders (which is what a screenshot shows) and what your monitor displays for your eyes to see.
July 21, 201213 yr Posting a screen shot is like posting a digital audio recording and telling people that this is what it sounds like on your speaker system. FWIW. with my bulky & heavy CRT (tube) monitor, the nights in FSX were very black. With my skinny & light, widescreen monitor....the same terrain is all visable. Must be the same with Flight.
July 21, 201213 yr Moderator Indeed. There's often a big difference in what your video card renders (which is what a screenshot shows) and what your monitor displays for your eyes to see. Not only that, but the way your screenshot appears on someone else's monitor will nearly always be different as well! OT. I was just listening to the tower at KGYY earlier when one of the controllers contacted a flight of four J-3 Cubs on their way to KOSH... ...as they were headed directly towards a blimp in the area. He could see the Cubs visually, but of course they were not showing up on radar at all. He jokingly asked them if they'd ever considered wrapping their Cubs in aluminum foil at least during such crowed conditions! :LMAO: Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 21, 201213 yr Since few people have calibration equipment for their monitors, virtually everyone will have a different appearance and experience. This is a classic problem in games which play out in night time scenarios. Some games include an in-game gamma correction. Perhaps this would be a good solution in this case. It was kind of funny to have people post screenshots and then say "See! It's obviously wrong!" without realizing that nearly everyone is seeing a different brightness and contrast in the same shot. Good point, I never thought about that. Indeed what I see on my monitor screen could be different from others depending on hardware configuration.
July 21, 201213 yr That is my exact problem. If you actually go out into an aircraft at night in real life, you will soon realize that the darkness of night is *very* dark. From the air, all that you really can even see is the street lights or runway lights. That was how that L1011 descended right into the Everglades at night, while trying to fix a light bulb in the cockpit. This is with 3 pilots in the cockpit. They had no idea they were descending into the ground. http://aviation-safe...p?id=19721229-0
July 21, 201213 yr I thank the community of this forum for helping me solve the problem. I adjusted the gamma in windows 7 and now its perfect :smile2: So its not Microsoft's fault after all! I apologize for criticizing. It depends on your monitor settings. This is what I did. Click Start on your taskbar and Search for "Calibrate Display Color". The first thing you'll be asked to do is to calibrate gamma levels. By default it's 50/50 for light and dark respectively so I pushed the level down to about 15/85 (almost completely dark) and I have to say the results are satisfying. The darkness is very intense and I can only see the city lights. Moonlight is at the right level of brightness. The most amazing part was when I turned on panel lighting... WOW, very cool as you would expect. In other words, you can't see anything but the aircraft gauges and the instrument panel barely light by the moon! Thanks again to the person who suggested editing gamma in this forum Now I'm back to night flying... Yee Haw!
July 21, 201213 yr Glad you've got great looking nights, but I do wonder how things look in daytime now...
July 21, 201213 yr Either Flight's days are too drab, or it's nights are too bright. I don't see a happy medium for monitor adjustments on that.
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