April 1, 201214 yr Hello everyone,I decided earlier today that I was going to finally pull the trigger on a new GPU. I have been chugging along with my cruddy GTS450 for the past 6 months and I finally was sick and tired of the bad performance. So, I went to my local PC hardware store and shelled the $$ for a single GTX580.The main reason I didn't go for the 680 was the fact that it has a smaller mem.interface(important for FSX) and few users have tested it in FSX. The GTX580 has proven to be a very stable card for FSX and the beast will eat anything that you can throw at it. I have to say that the image quality with 8XSQ AA is just amazing.Coming from my GTS450, the jump in FSX was around 10-15FPS. BUT, in scenarios using Nvidia inspector for AA, the performance jump is nearly doubled. The experience in FSX is nearly a new simulator due to the image quality and smoothness.I would like to kindly thank everyone here in this forum for the tests/benchmarks that have helped me invest in such a wonderful piece of hardware.Below are some images of my new card! :Big Grin:Kind Regards,
April 1, 201214 yr Very nice Ben. Enjoy it!and try some SGSS for GREAT visuals.I'm probably getting a GTX580 too, second hand (found one for just 270€ shipment included), as a replacement for my dead GTX480. Gigabyte has been a huge let down with the RMA. Almost 3 months without a GPU!By the way, what's with this stupid image spinning?
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April 1, 201214 yr Would you mind posting a screen shot showing a close up detail of the AA you get from that card? It may be time for me to switch back from ATI . . . :Thinking:Thank you. Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B. MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5 MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander
April 1, 201214 yr Author Would you mind posting a screen shot showing a close up detail of the AA you get from that card? It may be time for me to switch back from ATI . . . :Thinking:Thank you.Here are some shots with 16XS combined.
April 1, 201214 yr Thank you, Ben Cap! You are a scholar and a gentleman!(And I thought I had finished off my "ultimate box", and my "investing" was done! Once a fool, always a fool, eh?) Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B. MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5 MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander
April 1, 201214 yr Nice you finally upgraded Ben! I'm still thinking about getting a GTX 680. Why would the smaller mem interface be more important for FSX? When flying in heavy scenery with 737NGX at around 30-40 FPS, is it really 100% smooth, or do you also have some very light hitching and microstuttering (I repeat very slight)? Cuz I do. :( Arjen Vandervelde
April 1, 201214 yr Author do you also have some very light hitching and microstuttering (I repeat very slight)? Cuz I do. Since I began using FSX in 2009, I have had these microstutters. I haveno idea how to cure them but there are steps that you can take to help supress the effects. First, use an FPS limiter. This is a very easy way to kill off most of your hitching. Second, try different tweaks. Not all tweaks work the same for everyone and I would reccomend trying some different configurations. Third, always be sure to use the BP=0 tweak when using a high powered GPU with a high powered CPU. This can improve performance but you will need to use an FPS limiter in this scenario. Anyways, with my new 580, the stutters are very minor but performance is very nice. The image quality is incredible compared to the 450.
April 1, 201214 yr Since I began using FSX in 2009, I have had these microstutters. I haveno idea how to cure them but there are steps that you can take to help supress the effects. First, use an FPS limiter. This is a very easy way to kill off most of your hitching. Second, try different tweaks. Not all tweaks work the same for everyone and I would reccomend trying some different configurations. Third, always be sure to use the BP=0 tweak when using a high powered GPU with a high powered CPU. This can improve performance but you will need to use an FPS limiter in this scenario. Anyways, with my new 580, the stutters are very minor but performance is very nice. The image quality is incredible compared to the 450. Already know and have all this Ben. I kinda settled down with this rig and have found the optimum settings with PoolSize=0. and FPS limited to 60. 60 gives me the best results, because the lower the fps, the more hitching I get. So whenever I get 60 fps (which I sometimes do) then I get a 100% smooth experience because I'm running at exactly my monitors refresh rate. And btw, my microstutterinng and hitching is also very very minor as I said. But just wanted to know if everyone is having this at least a tiny bit, which you do obviously, but just as me it's only very minor and not that much of an issue to be honest, but the smoother the better of course. :) Arjen Vandervelde
April 1, 201214 yr Ben, You don't know how much better I feel after reading about your purchase. You may remember reading about my recent purchase of a 580 which I felt was 'premature' in light of the 680's availability but because returning it meant loosing too much money, I decided to live with my decision. Congratulations! And reading about how much you're enjoying the increased quality and speed of FSX is an incentive to accelerate the completion of my 2012 rig! Regards, JJ Jean-Jacques CYND, Gatineau-Ottawa Executive Airport, Gatineau, Quebec, Canada
April 2, 201214 yr I have eVGA's water-cooled version of that GPU...it's going to require some earth-shattering performance from the 680 series before I even think about upgrading. Not seeing anything compelling yet...maybe when IB hits the shelves, but I'm not counting on that. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
April 2, 201214 yr Author Congratulations! And reading about how much you're enjoying the increased quality and speed of FSX is an incentive to accelerate the completion of my 2012 rig! It is a great card! Good luck with your rig!
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