April 2, 201214 yr You should try being an FSX user who loves 737s LOL. Those developers are gonna bankrupt me. You and me both! Richard 7950x3d | 32Gb 6000mHz RAM | 8Tb NVme | RTX 4090 | MSFS | P3D | XP12
April 2, 201214 yr Author Engine management is key with this plane. If you think you can just fly along at full power without throttling back or watching the Manifold , its going to bite you in the rear, as it did for me. Here is one of my first flights with it, where I was running full throttle for too long and lost both engines. I had to land in the water since I didnt have the altitude to make the airfield. Rob
April 2, 201214 yr Commercial Member Congrats on what looks to be a top aircraft goran. I can't wait to get my hands on it. Once I finish up with the CRJ I think I'll be raiding the piggy bank. Best wishes, Jess B
April 2, 201214 yr Commercial Member Okay, a quick test, this was at about 90 percent of MTOW, so pretty heavy, air pressure at ISA, no flaps selected. Here is the take off data from the Air Ministry's POH for the DC-3: Here's the six pack a second or so after lift off, the aircraft was light on the wheels and coming off the deck a second or so before this, but drifting off the tarmac, so I pulled it off the deck with a little bit of up elevator, as you can see it was yawing a bit under protest, but flying and climbing strongly as indicated by the VSI. Ignore the altimeter, I didn't bother to recalibrate it: Here it is, still yawing, but well off the deck at the moment the six pack shot was taken. You can see that there is some up elevator fed in, but no flaps, and this is at less than 75 indicated on the ASI, and remember that this is at 90 percent of MTOW: This is why I have been trimming it to stay on the deck until it has some more speed building, since the safe climb out speed should be approaching over 100 before you really start going upstairs. As noted, this is a minor quibble, and where it really matters, the DC-3 is excellent, so as also noted, I think this is part of the notoriously 'floaty' behaviour of X-Plane. I still highly recommend this product though and would not want anyone to be put off buying what is for me, a landmark flight simulator add-on and one which makes X-Plane worth using as far as I'm concerned. After all, it is not a real DC-3 and one has to expect some compromises to get believable all-round performance, and where these have been done they are minimal, we are talking about a 5 knot discrepancy here, which if I'm honest hardly matters to me, nor should it to anyone else. It definitely shines in every other area, especially up in the cruise, where it is highly convincing and I really like it for that. And only a blind man could fail to fall in love with the exterior model. What are you waiting for? This is an FSX-beater, so go and buy it! Al Thanks for clearing it up for me, Al. I appreciate it! When I saw your reference to needing downward pitch trim, I was imagining you putting the pitch trim all the way down. In any case, I might go over that part of the flight model and see if I can refine it further. Thanks again. I'm really pleased with this add-on! hope to see more classic liveries soon, I'm trying some latin liveries by myself. Alex There's an included paintkit. It'd be great to see more liveries made by others. By far the BEST DC-3 to date that I've flown! Awesome Job you guys! Thanks Ed. Engine management is key with this plane. If you think you can just fly along at full power without throttling back or watching the Manifold , its going to bite you in the rear, as it did for me. Here is one of my first flights with it, where I was running full throttle for too long and lost both engines. I had to land in the water since I didnt have the altitude to make the airfield. Rob Rob, next time you're near water, select the FLOATS version. :P Congrats on what looks to be a top aircraft goran. I can't wait to get my hands on it. Once I finish up with the CRJ I think I'll be raiding the piggy bank. Best wishes, Jess B Thanks Jess! That CRJ is probably the add on that got my development spark lit 3 years ago. It's a good one.
April 2, 201214 yr In any case, I might go over that part of the flight model and see if I can refine it further. Nah, it'd probably screw up something else if you did that. Its fine enough as it is. Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
April 3, 201214 yr Engine management is key with this plane. If you think you can just fly along at full power without throttling back or watching the Manifold , its going to bite you in the rear, as it did for me. Here is one of my first flights with it, where I was running full throttle for too long and lost both engines. I had to land in the water since I didnt have the altitude to make the airfield. Rob WHat are those flashing areas that are showing while you pan around the aircraft? Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
April 3, 201214 yr Author WHat are those flashing areas that are showing while you pan around the aircraft? Dont know, Probably caused by my overclocking of the video card. Rob
April 3, 201214 yr I just measured the takeoff roll of the DC3 at KPWA runway 17L at an altitude of 1300 feet as measured in X Plane. At 1300 feet MSL the takeoff roll with a weight of 26200 should be about 1856 feet. Here is the standard day figures I used, Barometer 29.92 Tempertaure 59 degrees F 15 degrees C Weight 26200 +- a few lbs. No flaps: No elevator trim: No aileron trim No wind Takeoff roll to reach 87 knots IAS 1941 feet. or 85 feet over the estimated takeoff roll of 1856 feet. The tail started coming up at around 60 knots, at 87 knots, I hit the pause button jumped outside to see exactly where I was. I was in fact just short of the first set of single line runway markers, which are just past the second taxiway entrance on runway 17L. I then measured the distance in Google Earth, so these distances should be fairly close to right. I thought all in all, this thing is pretty close to the theoretical numbers or book numbers. I doubt if you would get this close to right in a real world setting on any given day. Donald E. Donovan Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man The 1st is landing.
April 3, 201214 yr Commercial Member Thank you very much for that analysis, Donald! I might actually take a look at that over the next few days, adjust it further and include it in an update. Thanks again!
April 3, 201214 yr Be careful not to over-tweak it, I honestly don't really think it needs anything doing to it, it is certainly close enough to the numbers for my liking, and you know what they say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Anyway,thanks for doing such a good job of getting this old girl into X-Plane, I hope Austin appreciates how much having a decent DC-3 for X-Plane will do for sales! Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
April 3, 201214 yr Commercial Member I gave it a good series of tests before release, but I want to go through a few more. If the figures are negligible, I'll leave it.
April 3, 201214 yr There's already another at x-plane.org's shop. Even better in my opinion, as it supports Linux like 99% of all addons.
April 3, 201214 yr There's already another at x-plane.org's shop. Even better in my opinion Better at supporting Linux?...absolutely. ....but that is probably about it in my opinion.
April 3, 201214 yr Yes sure but not only that. It also has floats, different models and liveries at a cheaper price! As I probably said: No Linux is a no buy for me.
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