I hoe you emailed X-Aviation immediately, I have bought from them twice and a very pleasant experience it was.

 

Yes, Donald, thanks - and got a reply exactly 1 minute later - that I would indeed call good service

According to Cameron 10.05 is required and I was still running 10.03 ... updating now ...

GoranM, let me ask you something not related to the DC3, but to all addons in X-PLane, including yours.

 

Where does a developer expect users to set their Artificial Stability and Linearity for the controls? I read that you should set 25% for both, is that correct?

 

Joystick linearity is found in the Joystick settings in the sim.

Artificial Stability is set in Planemaker. This DC-3 flight model has no artificial stability of any kind.

Yes, Donald, thanks - and got a reply exactly 1 minute later - that I would indeed call good service

According to Cameron 10.05 is required and I was still running 10.03 ... updating now ...

 

"Chock" had the same problem.

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/368238-just-picked-up-the-x-aviation-dc-3/#entry2322307

and fixed it...

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/368238-just-picked-up-the-x-aviation-dc-3/#entry2322611

Artificial Stability is set in Planemaker. This DC-3 flight model has no artificial stability of any kind.

 

:good:

 

However I think he was referring how to set the other slider in the joystick controls, the one Austin calls "stability augmentation" or something like that.

 

Marco

GoranM, let me ask you something not related to the DC3, but to all addons in X-PLane, including yours.

 

Where does a developer expect users to set their Artificial Stability and Linearity for the controls? I read that you should set 25% for both, is that correct?

 

I of course am not Goran, but since he has answered your question, perhaps I would be allowed to put in some of my thoughts on this subject?

 

Pertaining to linearity, and stability augmentation found in the joystick and equipment section, the default is 0% stability augmentation and 25% linearity, null zone is 0%. However I feel these settings depend on your particular joystick/yoke and your personal style of flying. If you fly a light and quick plane like the Bonanza F33A you probably would not be amiss to keep the default settings depending on your controller. If you fly a heavy plane one might have to increase the settings. The null zone settings are important too. By increasing the null zone settings one can make the aircraft feel heavier, at any rate that is what happens for my particular yoke. I fly the CH Flight Sim Yoke, which is quite old, (one of the first USB controllers to come out), so probably that has a lot to do with the settings. For the DC3 and my yoke I find that by setting the stability augmentation setting to 50% and the linear controls to full linear and the null zone to 35% the DC3 feels to have about the right weight and flight performance. If I leave these settings at default, this yoke is so twitchy, just the slightest movement will cause a drastic change in aircraft attitude, my CH pedals which are of the same vintage as the yoke is even worse!! For the pedals I have stability augmentation full right and full right non-linearity.

 

Some people scoff at setting the stability-augmentation at all and brag constantly they do not use it, in my opinion there is nothing wrong in using whatever one has to use to get your equipment to work the way you need it to work, and to get your aircraft a reasonable feel to it.

 

I do wish there were separate null settings for each of the axis, I could probably decrease the null zone for pitch and roll and increase slightly for yaw, however it doesn't do too bad with what we have now.

Following the praise here I purchased it, downloaded and installed it -> XPlane tells me that this acf file is not REALLY an acf file

allright, downloaded a second time, installed a second time -> XPlane tells me that this acf file is not REALLY an acf file

 

great for my first experience with X-aviation :mad:

 

This is caused by having installed X-Plane via the installer on the X-Pane DVD, it is the same problem I had and is easily fixed. Download the Updater/Installer from X-Plane, run that, it will update X-Plane, then uninstall and reinstall the X-Aviation DC-3 and it will work okay. Dunno if uninstalling the DC-3 and installing it again is actually necessary after using that updater, but that is what I did just to be sure, and it can do no harm to do so.

 

After installing X-Plane from the DVDs I got through the mail when I bought it, I learned that installing X-Plane from the DVDs is not the recommended way to do it (nice of X-Plane's developers to tell us that when what would seem the obvious thing to do after having had a big cardboard wallet full of DVDs arrive in the mail, is to put the first DVD in the drive LOL).

 

Al

I of course am not Goran, but since he has answered your question, perhaps I would be allowed to put in some of my thoughts on this subject?

 

Pertaining to linearity, and stability augmentation found in the joystick and equipment section, the default is 0% stability augmentation and 25% linearity, null zone is 0%. However I feel these settings depend on your particular joystick/yoke and your personal style of flying. If you fly a light and quick plane like the Bonanza F33A you probably would not be amiss to keep the default settings depending on your controller. If you fly a heavy plane one might have to increase the settings. The null zone settings are important too. By increasing the null zone settings one can make the aircraft feel heavier, at any rate that is what happens for my particular yoke. I fly the CH Flight Sim Yoke, which is quite old, (one of the first USB controllers to come out), so probably that has a lot to do with the settings. For the DC3 and my yoke I find that by setting the stability augmentation setting to 50% and the linear controls to full linear and the null zone to 35% the DC3 feels to have about the right weight and flight performance. If I leave these settings at default, this yoke is so twitchy, just the slightest movement will cause a drastic change in aircraft attitude, my CH pedals which are of the same vintage as the yoke is even worse!! For the pedals I have stability augmentation full right and full right non-linearity.

 

Some people scoff at setting the stability-augmentation at all and brag constantly they do not use it, in my opinion there is nothing wrong in using whatever one has to use to get your equipment to work the way you need it to work, and to get your aircraft a reasonable feel to it.

 

I do wish there were separate null settings for each of the axis, I could probably decrease the null zone for pitch and roll and increase slightly for yaw, however it doesn't do too bad with what we have now.

 

Thank you for the nice input regarding the question I asked Goran

 

I didn't know the default was Linearity at 25% and Stability at 0%. If you try the new Sbach 300 addon for X-Plane, just released freeware, amazing details, and set the Artificial stability at 0%, it's a totally different airplane to fly than to set it at 25%, which I think is what the developers recommend using. The aircraft will simply go into a spin with a simple input on the stick with 0 stability, but at 25% the aircraft responds incredibly well to the commands, and feels totally controllable even if it's near zero forward speed.

 

I would prefer for the Artificial Stability sliders under the Controller Menu to not exist, and be of developer's responsibility, not the end user, since it can change the FM so much.

I would prefer for the Artificial Stability sliders under the Controller Menu to not exist, and be of developer's responsibility, not the end user, since it can change the FM so much.

 

That's not possible to do. I can see how it would be easier for the end user, and if we all had identical hardware with identical calibrations, it would be perfect. But there are so many system configurations out there, that it's actually a better idea that the choice is there for the end user to set up the joystick linearity and stability augmentation to their particular tastes.

I remember having a Microsoft Sidewinder joystick. Played Battlefield 2142 with it and always flew the gunship and managed a 3rd place ranking (for my country) in it. Bought the new Saitek joystick and couldn't fly worth a damn. Crashed every 30 seconds. The difference was like night and day and it took me about 2 weeks to get used to it.

That's not possible to do. I can see how it would be easier for the end user, and if we all had identical hardware with identical calibrations, it would be perfect. But there are so many system configurations out there, that it's actually a better idea that the choice is there for the end user to set up the joystick linearity and stability augmentation to their particular tastes.

I remember having a Microsoft Sidewinder joystick. Played Battlefield 2142 with it and always flew the gunship and managed a 3rd place ranking (for my country) in it. Bought the new Saitek joystick and couldn't fly worth a damn. Crashed every 30 seconds. The difference was like night and day and it took me about 2 weeks to get used to it.

 

 

Ahh Battlefield 2142.. Remember it well. I never lived long enough to get close to anything that flew in that game.

 

Rob

Ha. I still play it. Not as often as I used to, but we still have a server down here that runs it.

Goran,

purchased DC3 and as others have already said a Top Flight X-plane Model.....congratulations.

 

TIM

 

(Just as an aside: I would normally have expected to have seen on the X-Plane10 Blog a mass of pre-release in game pictures followed by extensive initial impressions within minutes of the DC3 release.But not so! Any problems ?!?. Not wishing to sour things a simple yes/ no / none of your business ...would be fine.)

Quick question; does the model have working windshield wipers?

 

*Edit* Did the DC-3 even have wipers? lol

(Just as an aside: I would normally have expected to have seen on the X-Plane10 Blog a mass of pre-release in game pictures followed by extensive initial impressions within minutes of the DC3 release.But not so! Any problems ?!?. Not wishing to sour things a simple yes/ no / none of your business ...would be fine.)

 

They explain their point of view on payware reviews on the post titled "xp+10+reviews+3 april 2012+common cents"

 

Marco

Goran,

purchased DC3 and as others have already said a Top Flight X-plane Model.....congratulations.

 

TIM

 

(Just as an aside: I would normally have expected to have seen on the X-Plane10 Blog a mass of pre-release in game pictures followed by extensive initial impressions within minutes of the DC3 release.But not so! Any problems ?!?. Not wishing to sour things a simple yes/ no / none of your business ...would be fine.)

Thanks Tim

Discussions with Chip and I are happening. I don't really want to say much more than that as it's Chips site and I respect that.

Quick question; does the model have working windshield wipers?

 

*Edit* Did the DC-

3 even have wipers? lol

Actually, I found that some very early DC-3's didn't have wipers. But only a few. The old ones that started having wipers were hydraulically powered. I'll probably add them in an update somewhere down the line.

Marco---thanks for the heads-up. I regularly look at X-Plane10 but must have missed that piece.

 

Goran---if it comes down to supplying a Reviewers Copy my completely unsolicited advice is GIVE THEM ONE! And if one of the Avsim Team wants to do a review give them one as well. Hint,Chock/Al could do a great one; unbiased, sensbily critical, and with a wealth of background knowledge. I am frankly astounded the pair were buying the files themselves. I can only assume they have Off-Shore Accounts unbeknowns to their respective spouses.

The view may be different from where you stand and that there maybe other factors about which I am oblivious. However sites like X-Plane Blog / Avsim with dependable critical reviews sort the" Wheat from the Chaff" for us simmers. Actively promote this file.....IT SIMPLY SHINES.

 

Sorry for the above . I'll shut up now...TIM

It's all good, Tim

All the "review" side of things is handled by X-Aviation and the reviewer. There is actually a process to go through.

 

Thanks for the compliment!