I was just thinking today how much I'd love to have a native FSX Vickers VC10 with a virtual cockpit and all the bells and whistles.

 

With the exception of Concorde the VC10 has to be the best looking and most elegant jet airliner ever to fly, and it flew every bit as good as it looked with huge take off and climb performance.

 

I know there's already the excellent Dave Maltby VC10 for FS9 but a native FSX model would be very welcome indeed,

 

Just Flight.... I'm looking at you.....

 

And if not a VC10 then how about a BAC 1-11, Trident, or (gasp!) a Britannia?

ME !!!

The thing is who would make it... yes Just Flight could be. Along with that I also hope for a Caravelle.

I was just thinking today how much I'd love to have a native FSX Vickers VC10 with a virtual cockpit and all the bells and whistles.

 

With the exception of Concorde the VC10 has to be the best looking and most elegant jet airliner ever to fly, and it flew every bit as good as it looked with huge take off and climb performance.

 

I know there's already the excellent Dave Maltby VC10 for FS9 but a native FSX model would be very welcome indeed,

 

Just Flight.... I'm looking at you.....

 

And if not a VC10 then how about a BAC 1-11, Trident, or (gasp!) a Britannia?

 

David Maltby has a very nice BAC 1-11 and Trident on his website?

 

I would also LOVE a VC-10 with VC and a Caravelle!

 

Adam

I loved flying the VC-10 (David Maltby's model) in FS9 until I got TrackIR, as now I rarely fly anything without a VC. I'd be very tempted by a VC-10 with a VC (how can you not, it's even in the name....)

 

David Maltby has a very nice BAC 1-11 and Trident on his website

 

I probably have my most jet hours in David Maltby's outstanding BAC 1-11. It seems to port to FSX very well, as far as I can see it works as well as in FS9 to which it is native, and as well as other FSX native models that I have. The VC, which I fly in all the time, is excellent. It's by a long way my favourite freeware aircraft.

 

The Trident was made to a similar standard, including the VC, but I don't have enough hours in it in FSX to say for sure it ports as well as the 1-11 but I don't remember any obvious problems.

I loved flying the VC-10 (David Maltby's model) in FS9 until I got TrackIR, as now I rarely fly anything without a VC. I'd be very tempted by a VC-10 with a VC (how can you not, it's even in the name....)

 

I probably have my most jet hours in David Maltby's outstanding BAC 1-11. It seems to port to FSX very well, as far as I can see it works as well as in FS9 to which it is native, and as well as other FSX native models that I have. The VC, which I fly in all the time, is excellent. It's by a long way my favourite freeware aircraft.

 

The Trident was made to a similar standard, including the VC, but I don't have enough hours in it in FSX to say for sure it ports as well as the 1-11 but I don't remember any obvious problems.

 

Yes me too. Would love a VC-10 with a good quality VC. I can't fly with 2D panels anymore.

 

I love David Maltbys aircraft. The 1-11 flies beautifully and I love that worn photoreal cockpit. The Trident also has very realistic handling qualities according to an ex-Trident pilot I spoke to so maybe worth taking it "for a spin" again. Works fine for me in FSX.

 

Cheers

 

Adam

In the meantime you could just download the next best thing?

http://www.avsimrus.com/f/fsx-originalnie-samoleti-79/il-62m-aeroflot-sssr-34946.html?action=download&hl=

 

Don't knock it! I'm a huge fan of all the British Classics, but I've also flown in a good few Aeroflot planes. Never an Il-62, but it was one of these that flew in a replacement part and the engineers to fix a 767 that left us stranded in Cuba :lol: !

 

Actually I'd be more interested in a 1-11 but as I'm old enough to remember them taking off over my flat in Ealing I'm not sure my speakers are up to the noise they made :P .

 

I totally agree though that the library of early jet liners could stand a few "state of the art" models?

 

Geoff

I'm a VC only flyer in FSX now. I think when I get home I'll reinstall FS9 with a few old favourites including the David Maltby jets, which are my all time favourite freeware.

 

he Trident also has very realistic handling qualities according to an ex-Trident pilot I spoke to so maybe worth taking it "for a spin" again

 

A few months ago one of the UK aviation mags did an issue with lots of Trident articles to mark the 50th anniversary of its first flight. I find the Trident story fascinating, and wonder what might have been if De Havilland had been allowed to build the aircraft they wanted to instead of the emasculated design that BEA turned it into.... Perhaps aviation history would have turned out very differently.

 

Still, I always loved Bruce Dickinson's (of Iron Maiden) description of the Trident in the TV series he made called "Flying Heavy Metal" - he described the Trident as "three hairdryers flying in close formation".

 

I'm old enough to remember them taking off over my flat in Ealing

 

My Dad was from Ealing - he grew up just next to Lammas Park. I grew up a little bit further out underneath the approach to 27R in Fulham :)

Dave Maltby's VC10 is a really good model though in its basic form lacking in cockpit functionality. I've tried to restore that with my panel upgrades on avsim and to match the cockpit functions as closely as possible to the check lists and flight manual. I'm told that the model including the updates work well in FSX.

I've done hundreds of changes including, a night panel, pressurisation management, oxygen supply, fully functioning ignition panel, marshaller and a multitude of other stuff. Well over 100 visible changes plus many more background additions.

I'm currently working on a white light cockpit which I'm hoping to release in September along with a revised oxygen panel (see below) and increased enhancement to the engine fire management system. (in the second image the "real" fire bell test switch is now working. I'm also working on a fully functioning engineer's panel though that will take time.

BTW DM's 2D layout is excellent and the best way to recreate the correct perspective is to sit left of centre directly in front of the pilot's T. This allows you to scan the instruments in a more realistic manner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's a list of all the changes made to the VC10 to date:-

List of Current Additions to Original Model

System Wide Additions

All red and amber Warning lights – bulbs replaced

Cabin Safety Briefing

Cabin Call Take-off

Cabin Call Landing

Gear Up Command

80kts Call

60kts Call

V2 Call

Front Galley Service Door Time Passed

Rear Galley Service Door Time Passed

Front Cargo Door Time Passed

Rear Cargo Door Time Passed

Nose Access Panel Time Passed

Four Cabin Pressure Events

Cabin Pressure Aural Warning

Aural Warning Cancel

Oxygen Mask donned

Crew Oxygen and Panel Supply Pressure Reduction Valve

Main Tanks Oxygen Supply Pressure rate of depletion

Emergency Oxygen Available above 14,000ft

Emergency Oxygen Available above 17,000ft

Four Hypoxia settings

Oxygen Mask not pulled in time

Hypoxia recovery

Four Engine Fire Scenarios

Left Aileron Upset in transit

Right Aileron Upset in transit

TOCW Horn correct authentic sound

Spoilers over speed blowback protection

Main Panel

INS Update switches moved to top of windscreen

INS NAV switches moved to top of windscreen

Access to oxygen mask

Stall Ident Warning light

Stall Warning test light

Low DC power amber light

Engines 1-2 Fire handles

Engines 1-3 Fire handle test

Practice fire drill single engine out

Practice fire drill two engines out

Fire Warning Isolate Switch

Horizon Comparator light

Compass Comparator light

Digital OAT gauge

Digital Flight Time Gauge

Updated Attitude Indicator

Standby Yaw Damper

Standby Yaw Damper Test Button

Standby Yaw Damper On Button

1-2 Yaw Dampers

1-2 Yaw Dampers Test Button

1-2 Yaw Dampers On Button

Yaw Damper Cover

Spoiler lever

Spoilers Extended Warning Light

Parking Brake switch

Parking Brake on light

Brake Pressure Gauge

TCAS Gauge

Altitude Alert Light

Two TPI Overrun lights

Two Feel Fail lights

Power Control Light

Aileron Upset A Switch

Aileron Upset A Indicator

Aileron Upset B switch

Aileron Upset B Indicator

Ground speed Indicator

Blue Cabin Height Warning Light

Cabin Height Gauge

MFD Screen

Sextant Select Icon

Weather Radar Select Icon

Oxygen Panel Select Icon

Pushback Select Icon (Inop if call to ground crew not made!)

EFDAS Select Icon

Reference Speeds Select con

Nav Info Select Icon

Overhead Panel

Cabin altitude Select Gauge

Differential Pressure Indicator

Cabin Vertical Speed Indicator

L and R Spill Valve Indicators

L and R Spill Valve selector switches

Galley Switches

Altitude horn Cancel

Cabin Safety Briefing Initiator Button

Steward’s Light

Cabin Call Button

Red Glare shield light controller

Stall Ident Switch

Stall Warning Test switch

Stall warning valve A light

Stall warning valve B light

Stall Ident Pressure Warning light

Stall System fail light

Nitrogen pressure gauge

TPI test button

Louvre/ Recirc Fans switch

Ground/Flight Switch

Ground/Flight warning lights

Engine Reverse Test Button

Feel Isolate Button

Ground Crew Repeater Light

Red Map Reading light

Cabin Door in Transit lights

Relative Wind Gauge

Engine Fire Test Button

Windscreen Heat Switch

Temperature Select Switches

Aircon select Switches

Cabin Temperature gauge

Generators Active lights

Compass Check switch

Fridge switch

Battery Voltage Indicator

Battery 1 on/off indicator

Battery 2 on/off indicator

Circuit Breaker Panel

No.1 TRU Indicator

No.1 TRU Indicator Test Button

No.2 TRU Indicator

No.2 TRU Indicator Test Button

Fuel Panel

Fuel Dump Gauge

Two Fuel Transfer valves

Two Fuel Transfer Eyes

Slow Transfer Valve

Slow Transfer Valve Eye

Alt Fuel Transfer Valve

Alt Fuel Transfer Eye

Left Fuel Crossfeed Switch

Left Fuel Crossfeed eye

Centre Crossfeed Switch

Centre Crossfeed Eye

Right Crossfeed Switch

Right Crossfeed Eye

Engines 1-4 Fwd and Aft Booster Pump switches

Booster Pump Gang Switch

Engines 1-4 Fuel Pressure gauge indicates both

booster pump pressure or engine driven pressure

Radio Stack

Original Transponder replaced with TCAS version

Two ADEU Card Reader Units

Navigation by GPS discontinued

 

Ignition Panel

Passenger Doors open Light

Front Galley Service Door Open Light

Rear Galley Service Door Open Light

Front Hold Open Light

Rear Hold Open Light

Nose Access Panel Open light

Doors/Panels/Hatches Secure Test Light

Ground Crew Call Button

In Contact with Ground Crew Light

LP Shaft Rotation flashing light

Left/Right Igniters On light

Engine Starter light

Left NRV Open eye

Right NRV Open eye

Igniters Select switch

Modern AP Panel

MFD Selector Switch

MFD Range Switch

CSTR on/off button

WPT on/off button

ARPT on/off button

VORD on/off button

NDB on/off button

INS Selected Light

Pushback Panel (new)

Functions Described in relevant documentation

Conversation with Ground Engineer 7 selections

Straight Through Apron Parking Option

WX Radar (new)

Functions Described in relevant documentation

Image Superimposed over MFD

Sextant (new)

Functions Described in relevant documentation

 

Night Panel (new)

Red Illuminated Cockpit for Night operations

Controlled by OH Panel switch

Oxygen Regulator Panel (new)

Mains Oxygen Supply Indicator (4hrs 10mins use @ 1,850psi)

Pass Oxygen Supply Manual Valve

Crew Oxygen Supply Manual Valve

Interconnect Manual Valve

Panel/Crew Oxygen Supply Indicator (350psi)

Passenger Ring Main Pressure Indicator (80psi or 40psi)

Emergency Supply Pull Valve (Man or Auto)

Therapeutic Supply Pull Valve (Man or Auto)

Passenger Ring Main Oxygen Flow Indicator

EFDAS Panel (new)

Electronic Flight Data Acquisition System Warning lights

Electronic Flight Data Acquisition System Test Switch

Smoke Detectors Panel (new)

Freight Bays Warning Lights

Freight Bays Warning Discharge Valves

Three-way Selector Switch

Speed Calculations Card (new)

Enlarged Version of that used on C1K

Windscreen Ammeters Panel (new)

Pop-Up window controlled by Switch on OH Panel

Overheat warning lights

Engine Vibration Panel (new)

Sits Below Fuel Panel

Nav Info Panel (new)

Functions Described in relevant documentation

Nav Info Map Panel (new)

Functions Described in relevant documentation

Hypoxia Panel (new)

Self Explanatory!

 

Forward Left Window

Marshaller with “All Clear” Signal

.....just looked at Davids site and noticed the 1-11 sounds...

 

http://www.dmflights...uk/bac_1-11.htm

 

Looks like he got that bit right :lol: ?

 

Interesting to note that they work well in FSX.

 

Geoff

 

My Dad was from Ealing - he grew up just next to Lammas Park. I grew up a little bit further out underneath the approach to 27R in Fulham :)

 

I was born and bred in Fulham and our house on Fulham Palace Road was inbetween the approach for 27L and 27R so I spent many a happy hour in the garden with my binoculars, tripod and "Civil Aircraft Markings" (Ian Allan) book!

 

When I eventually discovered airband radios I could sit in the garden and clearly hear ATC at Heathrow as well as the overflying aircraft. It added a totally new dimension to the hobby and led me to gain my PPL when I was 18.

 

I miss the Trident 3. That made an awful racket on takeoff!

 

Regards

 

Adam

 

PS: I think it's time I reinstalled the DM VC-10 with those great updates.

I was born and bred in Fulham and our house on Fulham Palace Road was inbetween the approach for 27L and 27R so I spent many a happy hour in the garden with my binoculars, tripod and "Civil Aircraft Markings" (Ian Allan) book!

 

'Tis a small world! When I was born in 1981 my family was living in Crefeld Close (where Lille Road meets Dawes Road). When I was 4 we moved to Rostrevor Road and lived there until my family moved out of London in 1992. I recently did the family tree thing and found out my mum's family moved to Fulham from Norfolk sometime between 1860 and 1870. My mum's (large) family all lived in Lewis Trust shortly after it was built in the 1920s and were there right up until the 1990's. Alas, none of us are left there now :(

 

I remember as a kid the aeroplanes going over every 3 minutes. I remember Concorde rattling the windows :) When we left London we moved to Herne Bay in Kent and for the next 18 years lived under the approach of runway 10 at Manston. I can remember when Manston was an RAF base walking home from the bus stop after school and seeing all sorts of RAF and USAF jets flying around. When the RAF left and Manston became a civilian airport we used to get the Il-76, DC-8 and 747 freighters. Not much at all there nowadays :(

+1 for the FSX VC-10.

I will not fly anything in FSX that does not have a high resolution, super detailed VC. That being the case, it would be nice to see an FSX native VC10 or Bac 1-11.

'Tis a small world! When I was born in 1981 my family was living in Crefeld Close (where Lille Road meets Dawes Road). When I was 4 we moved to Rostrevor Road and lived there until my family moved out of London in 1992. I recently did the family tree thing and found out my mum's family moved to Fulham from Norfolk sometime between 1860 and 1870. My mum's (large) family all lived in Lewis Trust shortly after it was built in the 1920s and were there right up until the 1990's. Alas, none of us are left there now :(

 

I remember as a kid the aeroplanes going over every 3 minutes. I remember Concorde rattling the windows :) When we left London we moved to Herne Bay in Kent and for the next 18 years lived under the approach of runway 10 at Manston. I can remember when Manston was an RAF base walking home from the bus stop after school and seeing all sorts of RAF and USAF jets flying around. When the RAF left and Manston became a civilian airport we used to get the Il-76, DC-8 and 747 freighters. Not much at all there nowadays :(

 

Very interesting and yes a small world! I was always interested in Manston what with the amount of unusual air traffic passing through it. I flew in there a few months after I passed my PPL. My PA28 felt miniscule approaching that massive runway!