I think Ryan asked the same lately and the answer from Garmin was that it's not possible to update the trainer soft with any rw things. Means even if you had some Jeppesen subscription or whatever, there is no way.

 

 

You can update the data for the worldwide.bin - that's the main navigation database, but you would need the Jepp data and it isn't cheap. What I was asking Garmin was if there was a standalone trainer update, which I thought would be another method of legally updating that file... There was no update for the trainer.

 

About the original post. The clickspot issue is more or less a function of the virtual cockpit clickspots. It really depends on the addon plane you're using... some still have tiny clickspots. Also depends on the size of the gauge in the VC. Be advised a lot of planes don't have native 3D gauge support for the RXP units. The RXP unit will end up on the VC as a 2D gauge. On the 2D popup gauge the clickspots are simple to use and aren't a factor.

 

This being said I would recommend the 530w or 430w if you like any sort of online flying or like to fly with current charts. You can update to 2011 navdata legally imho... search the forums....

 

RE: The thread with a list... I made it, but a few others contributed... off the top of my head these have native integration (meaning a 3D gauge bezel in the VC via config program):

 

RealAir Legacy, Duke, Turbine Duke (GNS530 and or 430)

Baytower RV7 (530)

Aerosoft Katana 4x (530)

Lotus L39 (430)

Carenado T210 (both), C337, A36 Bonanza, King Air BE9L (430), and Jetprop P46T - all have one or the other for certain

Milviz BE55 Baron

 

And many models have the ability to place the gauge as 2D into the VC with some basic cfg edits...

Flight1 PC12

Eaglesoft Cirrus

Orbx Lancair IV-P

Milviz C310R

older Carenado models...

 

Also one can always put a 2D popup into ANY plane...

 

And finally, while a little off topic, if you're interested in update-able navdata, many other addons have that possibility (usually via navigraph - costs about $10 to buy a few cycles over 270 days):

 

PMDG planes

Flight1 T182T G1000

Flight1 Citation Mustang G1000

Flight1 BE20 King Air (wip - G1000)

LevelD 767

All the QW planes I believe

Many more listed here:

http://www.navigraph.com/www/fmsdata.asp

RE: The thread with a list... I made it, but a few others contributed...

 

Yep, that was the one I was thinking of. Thanks Ryan.

 

And just to fill out the Carenado and Milviz info Ryan provided: C337 (530), A36 Bonanza (430 x 2), P46T (530 and/or 430). Milviz Baron (530 and/or 430)

 

Scott

Thanks... for the update!

As a popup, it works in any plane, even the MD-11, lol. In the VC, you need a spot to place it where no 3D model interferes. For those planes which don't come with a pre-set config, it may take a few minutes to tweak and fiddle, but some users like Bert may already have posted this or that config to just copy and fly. :smile:

 

Do you have any particular plane in mind which you would like to run with the RXP?

I've retrofitted all my darlings, so perhaps I can tell (from memory) about the success or difficulties when it comes to the VC integration.

 

Some autopilots may not accept external steering commands from addon gauges, but those are very few.

 

Is there some place where we can find VC setups for RXP? They only have one setup on their website. I'm starting to learn how to set it up in the panel.cfg, but can't quite get my ducks in a row.

The recent RealAir Legacy Avsim review has a nice section with lots of screenshots of the Reality XP GNS and up to date info .

http://forum.avsim.net/page/index.html/_/reviews/lancair-legacy-r402

 

Ray

OT: But WOW! That's a very comprehensive review Ray, seriously splendid work!

OT: But WOW! That's a very comprehensive review Ray, seriously splendid work!

 

Thanks Ryan. Seriously splendid airplane.

 

Ray

Is there some place where we can find VC setups for RXP? They only have one setup on their website. I'm starting to learn how to set it up in the panel.cfg, but can't quite get my ducks in a row.

 

Each airplane is different - there really is no cookbook approach.

 

Visit the RXP support website - and interact with other owners, that

is the best way to learn when you are stuck..

You can update the data for the worldwide.bin - that's the main navigation database, but you would need the Jepp data and it isn't cheap. What I was asking Garmin was if there was a standalone trainer update, which I thought would be another method of legally updating that file... There was no update for the trainer.

 

Why would you need that Jepp data? I updated my database to 2011 as explained in the link posted earlier and everything seems to work okay. Didn't cost me a cent. BTW The terrain.bin also is updated.

Is there some place where we can find VC setups for RXP?

As Bert said, best place would be the RXP forums as there may already be some configs. Even if not, just ask for them there, then someone will post the config and this solution will then be found by future RXP owners.

 

From the theoretical viewpoint, you mostly look for the current GPS gauges being in the panel. You know, the ones based on the FSX GPS. Then you exclude those and add the RXP gauge entries.

 

Then you look how the new gauge fits the panel and sometimes resize the layout slightly. The RXP layout is a proper Garmin GNS430 and GNS530 rendition, while the default gauges represent other variants and sizes at times, hence the need to look closer.

 

Once this is done, your VC should be fine, if no extra 3D model detail interferes. For the extra popup window in 2D, you can use the RXP tool or use a similar method as on the VC replacement by excluding the default gauge again and using the RXP gauge entry.

 

You will get a hang of it soon. Even if not, ask the folks like Bert in the RXP forum (yes, it's the same Bert as the Avsim one ^_^ ) and he will help. He always does. :smile:

 

You can update the data for the worldwide.bin - that's the main navigation database, but you would need the Jepp data and it isn't cheap. What I was asking Garmin was if there was a standalone trainer update, which I thought would be another method of legally updating that file... There was no update for the trainer.

 

From another post of yours. https://buy.garmin.c...op.do?pID=32036

Suggested Retail Price: $ 75.00 USD

 

You sooner reported.

I spoke with a rep from Garmin - there's no way to update the Garmin Trainer .... oh well.

So would that 75 Dollar Jeppesen data legally update the trainer's data base or not? Sorry for asking, but the two quotes leave me puzzled. :mellow:

 

Why would you need that Jepp data? I updated my database to 2011 as explained in the link posted earlier and everything seems to work okay.

There's no doubt that it works ok and there also isn't any doubt that this step is highly recommended. However, lets look at some numbers to quantify the loss when being stuck at 1106.

 

On the US LPV approaches, 435 items where added or edited after that date. So those 435 US approaches are not within your current RXP data base, which might give an perspective about the amount and speed of those installations. Remember, these are just the US installations, the number of losses is bigger when adding other countries since the Garmin data base includes the planet.

 

What Ryan was up to was to add current Jeppesen data for the US. Makes sense when flying there and looking for current stuff. 75 bucks, not cheap, but it would be a legal way, hence the question if it works.

 

So, no doubt, updating form the 2009 to the mid 2011 data was a huge step, but with every day passing by, the current RXP stuff gets older. Having in mind how people may like to use them in the sim, the lack of current data gains weight, or not, depending on the preferences.

As Bert said, best place would be the RXP forums as there may already be some configs. Even if not, just ask for them there, then someone will post the config and this solution will then be found by future RXP owners.

 

From the theoretical viewpoint, you mostly look for the current GPS gauges being in the panel. You know, the ones based on the FSX GPS. Then you exclude those and add the RXP gauge entries.

 

Then you look how the new gauge fits the panel and sometimes resize the layout slightly. The RXP layout is a proper Garmin GNS430 and GNS530 rendition, while the default gauges represent other variants and sizes at times, hence the need to look closer.

 

Once this is done, your VC should be fine, if no extra 3D model detail interferes. For the extra popup window in 2D, you can use the RXP tool or use a similar method as on the VC replacement by excluding the default gauge again and using the RXP gauge entry.

 

You will get a hang of it soon. Even if not, ask the folks like Bert in the RXP forum (yes, it's the same Bert as the Avsim one ^_^ ) and he will help. He always does. :smile:

 

 

 

From another post of yours. https://buy.garmin.c...op.do?pID=32036

Suggested Retail Price: $ 75.00 USD

 

You sooner reported.

 

So would that 75 Dollar Jeppesen data legally update the trainer's data base or not? Sorry for asking, but the two quotes leave me puzzled. :mellow:

 

 

There's no doubt that it works ok and there also isn't any doubt that this step is highly recommended. However, lets look at some numbers to quantify the loss when being stuck at 1106.

 

On the US LPV approaches, 435 items where added or edited after that date. So those 435 US approaches are not within your current RXP data base, which might give an perspective about the amount and speed of those installations. Remember, these are just the US installations, the number of losses is bigger when adding other countries since the Garmin data base includes the planet.

 

What Ryan was up to was to add current Jeppesen data for the US. Makes sense when flying there and looking for current stuff. 75 bucks, not cheap, but it would be a legal way, hence the question if it works.

 

So, no doubt, updating form the 2009 to the mid 2011 data was a huge step, but with every day passing by, the current RXP stuff gets older. Having in mind how people may like to use them in the sim, the lack of current data gains weight, or not, depending on the preferences.

 

Thank you guys. I appreciate the help. Looks like I'm on the right track anyway.

There's no doubt that it works ok and there also isn't any doubt that this step is highly recommended. However, lets look at some numbers to quantify the loss when being stuck at 1106.

 

Ah, ok yes, I understand. I thought he meant to say that the update to 2011 isn't complete without 'Jepp data'. It is, but (obviously) only up to that date.

 

BTW I don't think you can officially simply update that trainer. You can update the database for a real Garmin device but you will need an original data card, software, a Jeppesen login, etc. BTW The link you posted was for America only. I think it will cost more for the entire world?

I think it will cost more for the entire world?

I'd say so, yes. That's what's stopping me from thinking any further as I fly my GA planes all over the place. If it was just the US, like in Ryan's case, 75 bucks may be an option though. Even more so if one flies the real units.

 

Well, the older the RXP data grows, the more 'sense' it would make to update them of course. But the cost by going 1:1 on the rw prices isn't reasonable for the pure sim usage of mine. So I'll stick with the mid 2011 data.

 

I think that if one digs into the RXP knowledge base (yes, there is such a thing), one may read it a bit more cleary that there currently is no way to receive a sim nav data set. Somewhere else, I think in the forums, they state that they are working on such a sim solution. Well, that's from some years ago.

 

So for potential buyers of the RXP, some items should be made clear.

• The last legal and affordable data set one can get is 1106.
  
• There is no way to import FSX plans to the units, you have to click and dial every waypoint. Exporting works.
  

As for the (official) support. I hope it gets better. Well, should be easy, there wasn't any for years but I'm seeing posts from July 2012, so perhaps that is about to change. Would be highly appreciated and needed of course. :smile:

And finally, while a little off topic, if you're interested in update-able navdata, many other addons have that possibility (usually via navigraph - costs about $10 to buy a few cycles over 270 days):

 

Ah, but there's always a catch...

 

The Flight1 Citation Mustang (and I assume their 182 as well) does not have data for Canadian WAAS approaches, and these are not provided as part of the navigraph updates. So, I can fly a handful of Canadian WAAS approaches with my RXP equipped planes, but only the US ones up to mid 2011, or I can fly the latest US WAAS approaches in my Mustang, but nothing in Canada.

 

Ah, well... :-)

 

Scott

 

I think that if one digs into the RXP knowledge base (yes, there is such a thing), one may read it a bit more cleary that there currently is no way to receive a sim nav data set. Somewhere else, I think in the forums, they state that they are working on such a sim solution. Well, that's from some years ago.

 

That's kinda what I thought. I'd probably be willing to pop for the $75 (I fly pretty much US/Canada only) maybe once a year or so if there was a way to get the data into the trainer.

 

Scott

I'm not even sure if $75 was the correct product.... It may be more