August 28, 201213 yr No, no arguments here, please. Just a look at the changes from the start, although nobody in this forum needs a reminder: Source. The Old Flight Simulator Vault - http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/ And the latest iteration of the Microsoft Flight Simulator series: I find it very interesting that we were all playing those early versions, and yet nobody, nobody at all, ever complained that it was just an arcade game for kids. And yet for most of its history, FS has not had: - airliners; - real weather; - ATC; - world-wide coverage; - realistic panels; - realistic flight models; - AI aircraft traffic; - freeway traffic; - realistic terrain depiction; - scenery objects; - realistic clouds; - and on, and on, and on.... For most of those decades, we were all busily pretending that FS was a real sim and that we were "serious" simmers, whatever that is supposed to mean. I am not looking for an argument, but only wonder how we shall feel 10 or 20 years from now looking back at all this? Shall we say, "That wasn't realistic at all, not a real sim like we have now"? :lol: I much prefer to look back with some tenderness, and marvel at the progress in our lifetime. And enjoy what we have as much as possible. Best regards. Luis Hot, humid Caribbean paradise!
August 28, 201213 yr "For it is the doom of men; that they forget." Merlin; Excaliber 1981 We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
August 28, 201213 yr "For it is the doom of men; that they forget." A men to that brother! Been there, done them all since day one. Flight was/is such an improvment it is hard to beleive.
August 28, 201213 yr Luis - Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. I too have owned each and every version. And, you're correct in us being in awe at each release and becoming a bit rabid about running them as much as possible. Now look where we are. :lol: Thank you. Rick $Silver Donor EAA 1317610 I7-7700K @ 4.5ghz, MSI Z270 Gaming MB, 32gb 3200, Geforce RTX2080 Super O/C, 28" Samsung 4k Monitor, Various SSD, HD, and peripherals
August 28, 201213 yr Luis that brings back some memories. I remember getting SubLogic FS on my C64 and then when SubLogic ll came out on a 41/2 inch floppy on my Amiga 1000 wow I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. It did teach me how to navigate though, because if you didn't learn, it was impossible other than by chance, to find another airport. Still have the original manual in my bookcase haha. Yeah had all the other versions too and all the new Pc's to make them run... ...sort of :) The things we do eh?
August 28, 201213 yr Nobody said they were an arcade for kids because they weren't. Flight by today's sim standards looks like an arcade for kids.
August 28, 201213 yr Author Chuck Yeager's Air Combat! Yes! :lol: Memories, oh, such fond memories! Best regards. Luis Hot, humid Caribbean paradise!
August 29, 201213 yr A great stroll down memory lane for sure! Thanks! I will quit griping about occasional stutters in FSX... Wow! Jeff NorthLink VA - Commerce & Community in Northern North America!
August 29, 201213 yr Commercial Member I loved B-17 Flying Fortress. Kevin Miller 3D Artist and developer
August 29, 201213 yr I believe that many of the Sims that brought us to where we are today would be classed as "games" now, in concept as well as execution. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
August 29, 201213 yr I believe that many of the Sims that brought us to where we are today would be classed as "games" now, in concept as well as execution. That's cause I think they were and some of us were a little younger, problem is I feel pretty much now how I did then. I do remember though going on and on explaining to people that 'my' flight sim was no way a game, it was the closest thing to flying you could get lol.
August 29, 201213 yr Which brings us back to the OP. Years from now, the "Sims" that we claim are the real-ist of the real, etc......... Will likely be seen in retrospect as "games" and "limited" We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
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