November 12, 201213 yr Hi foalks, I basically bought a brand new system for the sake of not just fsx, but for running fsx and pmdg aircraft with two monitors. This was a significant update for me, not bought a new system like this for over 6 years. The instant that I have finished putting the service packs on and everything else on to fsx, I put the graphics up to maximum settings for everything on fsx and I am surprised that I am seeing good results, no flicker, no lag - nothing worrying at all, nice to see this for a change:- Needless to say my new specs compared to the old ones are:- Win 7 64 bit (from win xp pro) 8gb DDR3 RAM (from 3gb ddr2) 2.7g quad core cpu amd (from 1.8 dual core intel) ati radeon (it says 500mb dedicated - 3gig available mem?) (from below) 1tb hdd (from 160gb) I did have a nvidea g-force 9500gt 1gig pcie card in the old system - but i've not put this into the new one and the onboard one seems fine. Now, I have never bought or run any pmdg aircraft on the old xp system, it was struggling with the normal setup as it was. I am thinking the new system should run pmdg software fine, but is anyone aware of any trial versions of the aircraft so that I can test this system before I go and buy the downloads from pmdg? or any other type of graphical tests I can do to determine whether it will cope or not? thanks all in advance Nathan Roberts.
November 12, 201213 yr my laptop has similar specs if I recall and I'm really happy with my performance. easily 30fps, and maybe 15fps in demanding scenery locations. Mitch Brown Private Pilot | Aerospace Engineering Major
November 12, 201213 yr Trial's are just gateways for hackers so that'd probably be a bad move from PMDG. Unless they only gave say one quarter of the aircraft; but then your performance wouldn't match what you'd get in the full product. - Luke Pabari
November 12, 201213 yr Author thanks for the replies, much appreciated. Yeah I can see why trials could be a problem, i suppose pmdg is not like microsoft whom can afford to offset some hacked software. I think i'l give the 737 a purchase and if it struggles, get a hew graphics card. Thanks again guys Nathan.
November 12, 201213 yr Nathan, I actually approached PMDG about the same issue a few years ago when I was running my P4 system, and I wanted to buy the 747-400 for FS9. Luke is spot on there - their reply at the time was that it is something they were not considering as it does give rise to difficulty pertaining to hackers etc. Of course, I cannot speak for PMDG, but this was their reply to me and I don't think that their standpoint has changed anything since then! Kind regards Werner Gillespie CYB2400Proud member of Cyber Air Virtual AirlinesAVSIM Staff Member
November 12, 201213 yr Commercial Member No Trial will be offered by pmdg, thankfully! We want the full product! Alex Ridge Join Fswakevortex here! YOUTUBE and FACEBOOK
November 12, 201213 yr Author Believe me, I want the full product too lol, but as an individual as a pose to a company, and with tight budgets; just wanted to make sure it will run or that I don't need a new graphics card. My other venture is then good scenery, I don't have a clue where to start on that one. I've seen a few video clips on YouTube on what the potential fsx can look like with pmdg and good scenery, so now I'm like a bulldog over a juicy pork chop. Lol
November 13, 201213 yr Trial's are just gateways for hackers so that'd probably be a bad move from PMDG. ... No, they are not (unless some dodgy decisions have been made in regards to the design of the demo). Thats not how reverse code engineering works. vatsim s3
November 13, 201213 yr My other venture is then good scenery, I don't have a clue where to start on that one. I think the best scenery out at the moment is ORBX. They have done all of Australia, New Zealand and some parts of the US and Canada. I believe they are releasing the UK soon. They do scenery and airports. For airports I would recommend Fly Tampa (just released Dubai) and FSDT. I can also highly recommend SunSkyJet Philadelphia, which is freeware at payware quality. "If you can't solve and equation with calculus, you're not using enough calculus" - A wise friend
November 13, 201213 yr Author Thanks alot for the suggestions, i will kindly make note for future reference
November 13, 201213 yr Trial's are just gateways for hackers so that'd probably be a bad move from PMDG. Unless they only gave say one quarter of the aircraft; but then your performance wouldn't match what you'd get in the full product. I don't know anything about the process of writing a hack, but I cannot believe that hacking the finished product is that much more difficult than a demo... I honestly think that as opposed to the potential hacking threat, this would get much more potential buyers over the line to go ahead and buy the product. Let's not forget that (although I personally believe all PMDG products are 'relatively' cheap) a lot of 'less serious' simmers are not willing to pay $60-$80 for an add-on plane simply because, in their eyes, it is not worth the price. I think that giving that segment the opportunity to try out the product and maybe make them realize what potential the product has could be fairly profitable... This is only my opinion and I fully respect PMDG's decision about the matter. After all they run their business the way they think will fit best. Thibault Dosunmu
November 13, 201213 yr Nathan please note that FSX is based on CPU power rather than graphics, so chaning your card won't do much. A faster CPU will give you much better value (fps) for money. George Golas ---------------------- I hate gravity!
November 13, 201213 yr Author Thanks El padrino, i've gone from the 1.8 dual core to the 2.8 quad core so I am presuming that this should help do the trick then. Denthibbe, as for the demo / full hacking issues, yeah I can see both sides I suppose, deffinitly the price is an issue to me, although I suppose it all balls down to how seriously anyone wants to take flying in fsx to how it is done in the real world. Me personally, the more skills that I learn the better for me. I would of been happy to have become a pilot a few years ago if I had the correct finance. Getting a PPL is more realistic in terms of prospects, however, even that can set back a few grand, plus an aircraft or share and fuel and club costs, all those before I've even had more than a couple of standard lessons. I've been interested in aircraft and flight since a very young age, but it naffs me off that unless you come from a background with alot of capital available (perhaps from the parents) then financing a career such as that of a commercial pilot can be, or seems to be non existant. I've known one guy (whom actually introduced me to the world of flight) that had to sell his house, work everywhere from cleaning the loo's to other blue collar work, after 20 years, he's now a first officer in his early 50's - he started off with a ppl when i was about 9 - i'm now 28. I've heard training instructors say to me, stay clear of fsx as it won't assist or gives, basically, an unrealistc insight. I beg to differ really, in terms of instrumentation and IFR, I believe it does give a good insight, so things like pmdg where you get a realist aircraft, where all the systems and controls work, coupled with a realistc scenery and environment, i'd argue that would stand anyone in good standing for a career in flight - although, I'd stand to be corrected by any commercial pilots on here Nathan.
November 14, 201213 yr I've heard training instructors say to me, stay clear of fsx as it won't assist or gives, basically, an unrealistc insight. I beg to differ really, in terms of instrumentation and IFR, I believe it does give a good insight, so things like pmdg where you get a realist aircraft, where all the systems and controls work, coupled with a realistc scenery and environment, i'd argue that would stand anyone in good standing for a career in flight - although, I'd stand to be corrected by any commercial pilots on here Nathan. The more you learn away from the plane the less they earn in tuition fees
November 14, 201213 yr I am struggling running NGX with my spec, but it is acceptable. Yours might be good for fs9 products, however running fsx... uhmmm... your CPU is just needed to be 'tweaked' a bit
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