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Buy or not buy

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I would ask for some reasons on why should I buy this lovely plane!

 

I mean... I own PMDG 737 NGX 800/900 and expansion 600/700. So being tested the perfection Im really curious about to bought or not this plane.

 

Cheers!

What plane do you want to buy?

  • Commercial Member

The J-41...

 

If you buy it, you won't look back. Guaranteed.

It's not as in-depth, in terms of the systems, as the NGX, but its a completely different challenge.

Kyle Rodgers

Because it's a lovely plane? Seriously, if you're a big fan of the NGX then the Jetstream might not be for you, it's a very different beast and kind of flying - you can't just "set and forget" a J41. And cruise is only approx 230 KIAS at FL200. But if you want a challenge and something that completely changes how you look at flying, then it's for you!

 

I love it because it's a very comprehensive simulation (you do without the 2D cockpit, failure engine and customisation available on the NGX, but otherwise it's all there) and it has just the right amount of sophistication and complexity to keep one man busy during the flight; you get an FMS that will deal with SIDs/STARs and LNAV, but VNAV is basic advisory only and there's no autothrust.

 

It's got lots of fun little idiosyncrasies which make it very rewarding to fly and it fits well with the short hops I like to do (<1:15). And I get a smug feeling of superiority over all those folks in their dull, generic, set-and-forget jets ^_^

 

There's lots of new concepts to get your head around, not least the single-shaft geared engines, but fortunately the tutorial and documentation are great for the most part, accessible and not too dry. And you'll learn to despise ice whereas previously you hadn't given it much thought (existing J41 owners will know what I am talking about :lol:)

 

As an added bonus, FS2Crew is available for it too.

ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile. 

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The J-41...

 

How did you know he's talking about the J-41? He may be asking about the Abacus 777 :P

Robert Yunque
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You actually have to fly the plane. No autothrottle, no AP vnav, no autoland. You're not in the FLs, so you can see the scenery go by. But you can still fly STARs if that spins your wheels. Rain on the windscreen. Gets into places the 73bus can't go. It has that intangible something special that a modern, medium range twin engined bus just doesn't have.

Mike Dryden

You're not in the FLs

I hate to be the pedant, but I am almost always in the FLs, typically between FL160 and FL200 on all but the shortest of hops. I don't suppose there is anything to stop you flying it at 6,000 ft, but it's not very realistic.

 

I do agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your points though.

ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile. 

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What plane do you want to buy?

 

Jeeez! You got a point here. Really forgot to add the name so sorry for that!

But on the other hand.....

 

The J-41...

 

Thanks Scandinavian for take me out of my embarrasing mistake!

I was certainly talking about the J41.

 

Because it's a lovely plane? Seriously, if you're a big fan of the NGX then the Jetstream might not be for you, it's a very different beast and kind of flying - you can't just "set and forget" a J41. And cruise is only approx 230 KIAS at FL200. But if you want a challenge and something that completely changes how you look at flying, then it's for you!

 

I love it because it's a very comprehensive simulation (you do without the 2D cockpit, failure engine and customisation available on the NGX, but otherwise it's all there) and it has just the right amount of sophistication and complexity to keep one man busy during the flight; you get an FMS that will deal with SIDs/STARs and LNAV, but VNAV is basic advisory only and there's no autothrust.

 

It's got lots of fun little idiosyncrasies which make it very rewarding to fly and it fits well with the short hops I like to do (<1:15). And I get a smug feeling of superiority over all those folks in their dull, generic, set-and-forget jets ^_^

 

There's lots of new concepts to get your head around, not least the single-shaft geared engines, but fortunately the tutorial and documentation are great for the most part, accessible and not too dry. And you'll learn to despise ice whereas previously you hadn't given it much thought (existing J41 owners will know what I am talking about :lol:)

 

As an added bonus, FS2Crew is available for it too.

 

You actually have to fly the plane. No autothrottle, no AP vnav, no autoland. You're not in the FLs, so you can see the scenery go by. But you can still fly STARs if that spins your wheels. Rain on the windscreen. Gets into places the 73bus can't go. It has that intangible something special that a modern, medium range twin engined bus just doesn't have.

 

People...thats what I was expecting so I can positively say that i will buy it.

 

One more thing....being not so complex as the NGX....can I expect best FPS? what about performance? its an FPS eater?

Framerates in the virtual cockpit are broadly similar to the NGX, don't expect to see an improvement.

 

The J41 was a testbed for a lot of technologies that made their way in to the NGX, and although the Boeing is more complicated, PMDG were able to further optimise features that debuted on the Jetstream to offset that.

 

And to be honest, the J41 is not all that much simpler, what you loose on the LNAV/VNAV/EHSI side of things you gain in the complex engine modelling and anti-icing.

ckyliu, proud supporter of ViaIntercity.com. i5 12400F, 32GB, RTX4070, more in "About me" on my profile. 

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I don't find it any worse than NGX.

Mike Dryden

I hate to be the pedant, but I am almost always in the FLs, typically between FL160 and FL200 on all but the shortest of hops. I don't suppose there is anything to stop you flying it at 6,000 ft, but it's not very realistic.

 

I do agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your points though.

 

Not every country considers 16,000 as in the "flight levels". It depends on transition altitude. Here in the US and a few other countries where the transition is always 18,000, the flight levels start there, at FL180 and up. So, we anything below 18000 is not called a flight level, it's called 16000-'one-six thousand'.

 

One more thing....being not so complex as the NGX....can I expect best FPS? what about performance? its an FPS eater?

 

Certainly very similar to the frames you get on the NGX. I personally notice no difference between the two. I wouldn't hesitate, as the others have said, it's one of those one-of-a-kind addons, in which you will be greatly rewarded once mastered.

Regards,

Kyle

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Already done! Its Mine! I think it will worth the money

will coment or ask for help soon for sure

 

Thanks everyone!

I have the J-41 and I have to say that hopping from Boeing 737 or Airbus to J-41 is like apple and oranges :rolleyes: . It's difficult at first but when you get used to it you'll love it.

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