December 8, 201213 yr Hello guys. I'm having major issues in setting up FSX properly. I've had my computer for a year now but still believe FSX isn't running right. I have a i72600k overclocked to 4.5ghz and a Nvidia GTX580 so I know that my PC is capable. I've tried and tried and tried to get this thing running to how I believe it should but I'm struggling! I have the PMDG 737, Ground Environment X Europe and Real Environment Extreme installed but I'm not happy with the performance. Micro stutters, poor frame rates etc. What I am resorting to asking is if there is anybody out there willing to set FSX up for me, I'd actually deliver you my PC to your door and even pay for you to do this! That's how frustrated I am with this! Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks, Jonny.
December 8, 201213 yr Easy: Posted Today, 12:13 PM First, turn OFF Hyperthreading in BIOS. Not used by FSX, and most other programs. Second, delete FSX.CFG. Set up your computer with ALL of Word Not Allowed's Guide. http://#####...hardware-guide/ Post your PC specs in your profile. Have fun Davve
December 8, 201213 yr Author Yeah I tried http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html this a while ago but didn't have much luck. I'm going to have a good go tomorrow at it and follow all of Kostas guide. To be fair I've made no changes at all in my .cfg file so will certainly try that. What a nightmare! I WILL get this running right if it kills me!
December 8, 201213 yr I wouldn't do all that stuff in the ******* guide right off the bat. 1) Be sure FSX isn't installed in the default Program Files directory 2) Either follow the "Word Not Allowed" guide or just start out with highmemfix=1 in your .cfg. I also use the bufferpools setting I do believe it helps smooth out stutters using faster GPU's to their potential. 3) Also you'll want to run nvidia inspector settings... either found in the Word Not Allowed guide or the NickN simforums guide: http://www.simforums.com/forums/fsx-and-nhancer-settings-for-new-drivers-updated_topic36586.html You also have to be realistic with your settings. I've got no idea what you're running but you still can't max the sliders. If using the BP=0 value you should run water @ 2x.high. But for others keep AI traffic to a minimum (20-30% for 3rd party payware). Scenery can be maxed and don't use an LOD edits for starters. Those can be set later. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
December 8, 201213 yr Sadly you will never get FSX tuned to perfection. Too many bugs and faults in the original code for that to ever happen. May I suggest starting with a clean cfg and just add the higmemfix tweak and see where that gets you. Also, you will probably need to go down a notch on traffic, weather and scenery settings. Check out this guide by NickN of GEX and UTX fame: http://www.simforums.com/forums/different-scenarios-different-settings-thats-how_topic41798_page3.html (3:44 PM post) Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
December 8, 201213 yr Sadly you will never get FSX tuned to perfection. Too many bugs and faults in the original code for that to ever happen. Respectfully, this is not the cause for issues related to setting up FSX. Perhaps you could tell us what are all of the "many bugs and faults in the original code" that causes problems with FSX today. The way I see it, there are so many types of computer systems, many different hardware and software configurations and overclocking and overheating cause issues too. Some of the so-called 'tweaks' don't work in every system and I don't think people should be employing tweaks unless they know exactly what the tweak does. Then, they should employ it and if it doesn't improve things, then dump it. It's not working on their system. One of the other things that causes major problems is one trying to set fsx or display driver settings too high. Unless you are a computer expert or know exactly what you are doing, you will eventually have problems. I had my system set to a 4.8GHz OC and it ran great for a few weeks but then I started seeing more and more "issues" so I brought it down to 4.6 and again down to my present setting of 4.4GHz. I never employ maximum settings. FSX, DX10, PMDG, iFly, Carenardo and other aircraft, Orbx/FTX and FSDT scenery and AS2012 have never ran so well since I owned FSX. Personally, with the aid of many talented developers, I think FSX is running great for the majority and will continue for several more years. I wouldn't do all that stuff in the ******* guide right off the bat. Totally agree with this. If you go and have him modify your FSX.cfg, you really don't have any idea what tweaks were employed and you should be looking at installing tweaks slowly and intelligently knowing exactly what it does. The Word Not Allowed Guide and/or Nick's excellent guide on Setting up FSX and Tuning It provide details on what the tweak will do if placed in your FSX.cfg. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
December 8, 201213 yr Respectfully, this is not the cause for issues related to setting up FSX. Perhaps you could tell us what are all of the "many bugs and faults in the original code" that causes problems with FSX today. The way I see it, there are so many types of computer systems, many different hardware and software configurations and overclocking and overheating cause issues too. Some of the so-called 'tweaks' don't work in every system and I don't think people should be employing tweaks unless they know exactly what the tweak does. Then, they should employ it and if it doesn't improve things, then dump it. It's not working on their system. One of the other things that causes major problems is one trying to set fsx or display driver settings too high. Unless you are a computer expert or know exactly what you are doing, you will eventually have problems. I had my system set to a 4.8GHz OC and it ran great for a few weeks but then I started seeing more and more "issues" so I brought it down to 4.6 and again down to my present setting of 4.4GHz. I never employ maximum settings. FSX, DX10, PMDG, iFly, Carenardo and other aircraft, Orbx/FTX and FSDT scenery and AS2012 have never ran so well since I owned FSX. Personally, with the aid of many talented developers, I think FSX is running great for the majority and will continue for several more years. Best regards, Jim Jim, I think you misunderstood what I said. If you read what I wrote carefully I used the word perfection in relation to the original post. The microstutters (most often caused by loading of AI traffic, changes in weather etc.) and autogen popping to name a few "bugs" will never go away, no matter how much you tweak or tune FSX. The "smooth as a summers breeze" FSX doesn't exist, no matter what hardware or tweaking you use. I am totally happy with my setup. I use very few tweaks and have learned to live with the shortcomings in the FSX code. I don't overclock, run NVidia inspector, mess around with affinitymasks, bufferpools or all that other stuff. I just have higmemfix=1, wideviewaspect=true and autogentrees=6000 enabled. Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
December 9, 201213 yr Jonny I had a very similar rig that you have and for the most part it was ok but not quite happy with it even after all of the tweaks, now you mention an overclock I had the same overclock also I started to notice OS crashing thinking it was a hard drive going south so ok lets buy a nice ssd, long story short I think your components may be collecting dust yes dust my rig has the corsair 80 water cooler the radiator was totally blocked with dust not saying this is your problem but you may want to check it out so here we go, I went for broke ###### with fsx I throw this out I built a Gigabyte z77x-ud5wf - evga 680 ftw 4 gig - 32mb ram - 512mb Vertex 4 SSD hard dive - 1250 watt corsair gold proffessional power supply - not yet overclocked and wow this thing kicks fsx arse no tweaks yet no overclock yet I stress YET should be really great after tweaking now one thing I do suggest is to buy fan covers especially if you are running a water cooler if your not then get one asap if overclocking its the only way to go, these filters are cheap and get the magnetized versions very cool if your case is not metal they still provide a stick on that you can adhere the filter frame too its a magnet allowing cleaning of the filter and reapplying, anyway whatS the difference with this New rig the SSD - the rate of transfer on the motherboard has gone from 3 to 6 gig of transfer also the pci slot is now 3.0 now AND THE gtx680 IS AWESOME 4gig of ram is not going to make a difference thats complete BS - not saying you should go out and buy a new rig but a new SSD purchase might solve your issues if you do this make sure you do a new install and buy the largest capacity you can afford, any questions just ask me here to help, fsx is amazing now FIANLLY. PS FSX starts up in about 7 seconds now with most addons amazing stuff, I would go wwith the OCZ vertex 4 for sure. Rich Sennett
December 9, 201213 yr Jim, I think you misunderstood what I said. If you read what I wrote carefully I used the word perfection in relation to the original post. The microstutters (most often caused by loading of AI traffic, changes in weather etc.) and autogen popping to name a few "bugs" will never go away, no matter how much you tweak or tune FSX. The "smooth as a summers breeze" FSX doesn't exist, no matter what hardware or tweaking you use. I am totally happy with my setup. I use very few tweaks and have learned to live with the shortcomings in the FSX code. I don't overclock, run NVidia inspector, mess around with affinitymasks, bufferpools or all that other stuff. I just have higmemfix=1, wideviewaspect=true and autogentrees=6000 enabled. I guess we'll have to totally disagree with each other because I totally disagree with everything you said about the shortcomings of the FSX code. Your autogen tweak for trees is really not a tweak but the maximum amount of trees you can have loaded in each cell. The default is 4500. Autogen is a performance killer and most likely the cause of all your issues. Why not lower that amount down to 1000 or leave it at the default as suggested here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555739? Your fsx settings have a lot to do with performance and things will get bad especially when you move that autogen slider to the max and move some of your other sliders in scenery to the right or almost to the right. Like Word Not Allowed's Guide says, you have to balance tweaks, overclocking and fsx settings to get the best out of your system (or something like that). Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
December 9, 201213 yr I guess we'll have to totally disagree with each other because I totally disagree with everything you said about the shortcomings of the FSX code. Your autogen tweak for trees is really not a tweak but the maximum amount of trees you can have loaded in each cell. The default is 4500. Autogen is a performance killer and most likely the cause of all your issues. Why not lower that amount down to 1000 or leave it at the default as suggested here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555739? Your fsx settings have a lot to do with performance and things will get bad especially when you move that autogen slider to the max and move some of your other sliders in scenery to the right or almost to the right. Like Word Not Allowed's Guide says, you have to balance tweaks, overclocking and fsx settings to get the best out of your system (or something like that). Best regards, Jim Jim, I have no issues with my setup. I know perfectly well that the 6000 is pushing it and I would not use such a setting if smoothness was my only concern. Please look away from that. My settings has nothing to do with the original FSX code so to speak. It was just meant as a sidenote to illustrate that there are different strokes for different folks and extensive tweaking isn't neccesary to enjoy FSX. FYI, I have no addons and run FSX stock. Even at medium settings FSX will have micro stutters, autogen popping, cloud popping, occational texture flashing etc. I have never seen a setup were those things doesn't happen every now and then, even at lower settings. Maybe we just have different interpretations as to what those tiny glitches look like? Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
December 9, 201213 yr "The "smooth as a summers breeze" FSX doesn't exist" All due respect I beg to differ I am not seeing any issues anymore have to see to believe it, maybe its that new gtx680 not sure because I did not put an ssd on my z68 motherboard to prove it out. Rich Sennett
December 9, 201213 yr "The "smooth as a summers breeze" FSX doesn't exist" All due respect I beg to differ I am not seeing any issues anymore have to see to believe it, maybe its that new gtx680 not sure because I did not put an ssd on my z68 motherboard to prove it out. Well, maybe I'll just have to get that GTX680 then. Don't quite get what you mean about that SSD though? Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
December 9, 201213 yr If you read my lengthy post the ssd on the new motherboard with 6gig of info thruput is probablly helping quite a bit - ssd is amazing in performance compared to the old 7200rpm drives this has to be part of the cure of a great running system. yah 680 doesnt hurt either not even breaking a sweat amazing. Great power supply is a huge factor too quality power supply is a must been buying no name power supplys never again, corsair all the way. Rich Sennett
December 9, 201213 yr I agree with the idea of deleting the FSX config and looking at Word Not Allowed's guide. You may even want to look for Nick's guides for setting up windows. I used Nick's stuff for setting up windows in 2009 and I am still on the same FSX install and OC. Sure, I have had a few hiccups from time to time but for the most part, my system is pretty nice (and not nearly as powerful as your system). Something is not right with your system. To give you an idea of where I am at, I run a ton of UT and .BGL based AI traffic with ASE and numerous add ons. On the ground, FPS may be in the teens at major hubs but locked at 30 in the air. The only time I have issues is when UT loads a lot of traffic or I am in heavy weather in a area with several commercial airports. As mentioned, I used Nick's settings along with some from ******* and Word Not Allowed. You can make it work but you have to start from the beginning. I consulted tuning guides before my system was even built. For the past 10 years, I have always hand picked all of the components for my rigs and brought them to good mom and pop computer store to have them assembled and Windows installed. For the last one, I gave them a laundry list of what to do and what not to do. Three years later, I am still very satisfied. MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
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