Can you guys please show me some VC screenshots with the update?

Do you run the full version of FSUIPC? I've had my controller axes setup via FSUIPC for a while now and found that if you set up each toe brake (left and right pedal) and send control input data 'direct' to FSUIPC rather than FSX then it works. Just make sure to also set each pedal to reverse on the FSUIPC calibration settings.

 

Yes, i have registered FSUIPC. I saw on forums and facebook page that lot of people's have a problem with brakes. Do you mean that i should send axes to fsuipc without calibration or send direct to fsx? My bbs bus is uninstaled becouse of lot of buggs, i'll try with next update. Thanks anyway

Do you mean that i should send axes to fsuipc without calibration or send direct to fsx?

 

When you setup the axes to 'send direct' to FSUIPC it completely bypasses FSX so you will need to also make sure they are calibrated properly in FSUIPC as well. So far I've only done this with my pedals and not my stick yet but it has worked for me. I read somewhere on the comments on the BBS Facebook page to do this.

Can you guys please show me some VC screenshots with the update?

 

I'll do that for you, gimme half hr :smile:

Meanwhile, here's one descending... Sorry i had to resize it as my screen is 2560x1440.

 

This is sooooooooooo unfinished!

 

People who get angry with Captain Sim's development style, need not apply for this one.

 

My observations:-

 

- It could be great in the future, but it's a long way off.

- Manual FBW is very very nice, and feels arguably more natural than the Aerosoft Airbus X Extended.

- Sounds: apart from engine sounds (nice) all other are awful. Cheap switch sounds that sound as though they are from FS8, and default FS (GA) fuel pump sound running the whole time!

- FCU is pretty much inoperable in VC for me. The altitude knob increments altitude in units of 10,000..... yes that is not a typo, units of 10,000!!..... this doesn't happen in 2D but it does in VC. Also could not get cabin signs and many other functions to work in VC ........ only in 2D.

- I actually like the VC visually, even though some elements are not as good as Aerosoft, others exceed it; eg.... the screens (PFD / ND etc) are quite far superior, with nice reflections and easier to read text and visuals.

- As documented, no toe brakes functioning. With the throttle lever in the FLEX detent during T/O my thrust was exceeding the requested amount and engine instruments went red (no FADEC?).

- Under automatic flight the 'bus is still just crazy and does little that you expect it to. This is the biggest disappointment as I was expecting the plane to be fly so much better under AP in this version 0.6.

 

.......Hopefully one day this will be as good as the PSS A320 was for FS8/FS9 back in 2003/4 ......... (it was my all time favourite back then), but at this point, I will back out of the beta testing and wait until at least v1.0 before installing this again as it is, IMHO, just so unfinished to enjoy.

Raul_Hernandez,

 

+1

This is sooooooooooo unfinished!

 

People who get angry with Captain Sim's development style, need not apply for this one.

 

I don't know why people get angry or even comment on how unfinished this is. It is clearly stated (and on some CS products as well) that these are... surprise surprise... unfinished products.

I don't know why people get angry or even comment on how unfinished this is. It is clearly stated (and on some CS products as well) that these are... surprise surprise... unfinished products.

 

That is true.

 

But we are in a subjective not objective territory here....... it is not black and white, and neither are people's expectations of definitions of an 'unfinished' product.

 

Some, like yourself, may be happy with the current state of this offering. Others would have expected more function at this point, given that it is a saleable item, not something being beta tested by non-paying beta team members.

 

But..... I say again, I agree with you. It is publically stated as being unfinished: I was just re-iterating that point for the sake of others who may think they are buying something that they can operate a flight regime with. As I said, there are good things about it, particularly the improvement in v0.6 in the VC texturing, and the display screens are superb.

Well, i'm not happy with BBS yet. The navigation needs quite a few improvements as well as some systems for me to be happy. This includes proper ND lines being drawn.

 

I can also say i'm happier with the unfinished BBS product than i am with the release version of Aerosoft's Airbus X Extended. While the extended looks better, it flies worse and the automatic navigation is a disaster... Can't believe how i thought it would be great prior to its release... Accidents do happen.

I don't know why people get angry or even comment on how unfinished this is. It is clearly stated (and on some CS products as well) that these are... surprise surprise... unfinished products.

 

 

I might be wrong here but the way I understood things when I bought it it is that the product (prologue) was/is not being sold as unfinished product .It was/is sold as a product with less features than the extreme version will have.So, imo, prologue only means with less features not beta the way CS is selling its t7. Thing is even those features that are/were implemented are not fully working at least not for me.

 

 

Am I missing something ?

Am I missing something ?

 

No I don't think you are. :smile:

 

It just does not work yet, aside nice FBW manual handling operation.

 

@ Nuno... I suspect you have issues with the Extended's installation or operation, as I have not seen one issue with the aircraft's automatic navigation. For me, it navigates flawlessly (the one nav issue I experienced, having been addressed by the HotFix), through lateral navigation, to ILS, and onto perfect autolands. I am not saying this to antagonize you or tell you that you are wrong, just that for you to say that 'automatic navigation is a disaster' points to an unusual problem perhaps, as many of us are not seeing the problem that you have clearly seen.

I'm talking 'disaster' because two days ago when flying from LPPT to LPHR i had to cross an oceanic waypoint (3920N) and after passing GUNTI, the waypoint before 3920N, the aircraft just flew north instead of proceeding to 3920N. I 'solved' the problem with a DIRTO 3920N, but once i passed 3920N and was supposed to go to the other waypoint (BAVAS if i recall), the aircraft just went north again, having to use DIRTO once again.

 

Not only this but many other aspects are unfinished as for example ILS capture out of a turn, 12nm out arriving to Sharm El Sheik... The Airbus started left turns in circles until i decided to end the show and manually fly the ILS. Another issue is having a TOD perfectly drawn on ND, then setup a STAR and transition only to see the TOD move inside the STAR somewhere at FL380 completely messing up the arrival so i have constraints like FL120, then FL60, then T/D at FL380 then FL60 again... In this case the plane wouldn't even start a managed descent, i had to bring it down with V/S...

 

It is a disaster indeed as it stands and needs proper fixing because it cannot be trusted. I wouldn't say this if i was the only one having these issues, but it's the only aircraft that does this and these issues were tested by other guys i fly with. Actually, the 3920N issue was brought to me by one of them and i went there to test it because i wasn't believing that could happen.... Well, it does!

 

Anyway, this is way offtopic, this one is BBS's thread not Aerosoft's and i already reported these issues to them - They are investigating.

- Under automatic flight the 'bus is still just crazy and does little that you expect it to. This is the biggest disappointment as I was expecting the plane to be fly so much better under AP in this version 0.6

 

So far the automatic flight on this 'bus is a big improvement over the previous version. My biggest gripe previously was the managed descent that didn't work as well as incorrect speeds etc, this seems to have been fixed now.

 

I also just completed an EGLL to LSZH hop and this being my second full flight I haven't come across any problems that have prevented me from successfully completing them. Only issue I noticed is the autopilot automatically disconnects when about to intercept the LOC, not too much of an annoyance though as at this point I simply take manual control and once on the LOC the autopilot seems to be able to reconnect.

 

I understood things when I bought it it is that the product (prologue) was/is not being sold as unfinished product .It was/is sold as a product with less features than the extreme version will have.So, imo, prologue only means with less features not beta the way CS is selling its t7.

 

My understanding is that anything in the software development world that has a version 0.x on it is typically still beta. A full release product will always be version 1.x so in this case they're doing exactly the same thing as CS by selling a yet to be completed product that's till in 'beta'.